China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi reportedly told the EU's top diplomat Kaja Kallas on July 3 that the country cannot afford for Russia to lose the war in Ukraine amid fears the U.S. would shift focus towards Beijing, the South China Morning Post (SCMP) reported, citing sources familiar with the conversation.
Yeah, the 1st paper is from 2015, that’s after the Hong Kong protests, when it was finally clear that China was going to stamp out democracy in Hong Kong and Xi Jinping’s new Wolf Warrior diplomacy. Excuse us for being…unimpressed.
Eh, but I’m not making any predictions, but if russia implodes by repeatedly hitting their head against a wall, you’re cleaning up that mess, not us, he’s your drunken psychotic friend now. We already got plenty scalded trying to rehab them and getting blamed for everything that went wrong.
That was a paper talking about history. That it started before Obama even. Though, as the wiki article states at a minimum it started with Obama. Also, why would Russia lose? The implied threat is your going to be facing down J20s if it gets bad enough.
Clarity is actually better in these things.
I’m clear. The EU talks about wanting to stop Russia, but doesn’t actually work with the partner that can stop Russia. That’s as clear as it gets.
I guess that depends on what the US turns into…and there is no clarity there… :/
China’s just talking about stopping Russia. Which the EU keeps saying it’s the top priority. They’re willing to spend billions to do it. China’s saying you can save all that money, totally your choice. It’s easy for me.
Edit see we are talking about different clarity. Europe has none. China has all of it.
Do you understand why the EU considers this a top priority? Hint: it is not about Ukraine’s land or NATO/EU membership.
Well, as Kallas says, it’s to go after China next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQTS1RC50A
So, after that statement, I honestly can’t imagine China having more clarity on supporting Russia.
No, it’s russia. The whole point of NATO is russia. russia needs to have its invincibility myth shattered and imperialist tendencies restrained (Merkel tried this with trade and failed) by learning that they wasted millions of people and gained nothing. This is a hard learned lesson by most EU countries and is the glue of the EU. If the EU loses this, the lesson is that pacifism is a losing strategy and russia will just learn that war pays, so they will regroup and return for more in a generation.
The US should have learned this too from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan…and they do appear wary of starting new wars…even the neofascists.
China…has a lot of nationalists, but so far has focussed on trade…hasn’t started any wars…fine with he EU. Could be a good partner to fight climate change, because the US and russia will never abandon their precious fossil fuels.
The crackdown on the George Floyd protests was far more violent and deadly. You can’t point at China when your own house is a mess.
Yes any talk about democractic reason to stop China is stupid considering they “NATO allies” are committing a full blown genocide in Gaza.
In reality China is a natural threat to wealthy people in the west because they have the population and the technology to: 1) fight any attempt to be exploited , 2) Exploit other countries.
There are wealthy people in China too (and a disgusting cult of wealth to go with it to make any communist nauseous or any oligarch envious) and they’re obedient little piggies, just like those idiots at tramp’s inauguration