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    Sarah Silverman, said the palestinian babies need to die because theyll grow up to be terrorists then turned off comments for a year on ig, she said more than that had a whole tirade, ruined her. Shes back now pretending she didnt say anything, pr team put in work. My post on her reddit got deleted so I stopped caring about telling ppl, but this made me remember.

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      Really enjoyed the sarah silverman show, learning this and the cop in her show who was jimmy in bobs burgers went to the jan 6th riots really ruined it for me.

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    Kelsey Grammer.

    I still can’t believe he’s riding the Trump train, and is returning as Beast for the new Marvel films at the same time. The cognitive dissonance is confounding me.

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    Chuck Norris.

    As a kid growing up in Texas in the 90s, Walker Texas Ranger was cool. Early internet memes about him were hilarious.

    Then he said if he were elected president he would “Tattoo an American flag with the words, “In God we trust,” on the forehead of every atheist.”

    Ever since I’ve been the killjoy, saying “fuck Chuck Norris” to anyone making a Chuck Norris is tough joke.

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      I can’t even remember the last time someone said a chuck Norris joke…oh yeah it all died suddenly when he came out as an ultra Christian and revealed he didn’t understand how jokes work. He started correcting people that his tears do not actually cure cancer.

      I think MySpace was still a thing back then.

      What a bizarre moment that was.

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      Same deal with Steven Seagal, used to think he was a badass. Now the shitbag is clinking glasses with Putin and can totally still beat up multiple stuntmen.

      You know who actually was a badass and didn’t say a goddamn word about it? Bob Ross. Most people don’t even know he spent years in an Air Force uniform before painting those happy little trees and trying to bring some joy to people.

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      jackien chan, he went SHILLING FOR THE CCP sometime ago, and was ousted from HK film industry for that, and he couldnt even make it as a party member. i saw him making news again because he was in cobra kai, that isnt going to save his fame. also abandoned one of his daughters in canada with no money,.

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      Dave Chapelle

      Yup, he turned into a dick as he got old. A lot of celebs do that, or they cant afford that PR team anymore that used to make the look like they werent aholes.

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      hes basically, why is everyone getting upset about my transphobic jokes. and then all the conservatives start flocking to his show.

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    why do you people love celebrities so much?

    if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy

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      Speak for yourself.

      People can decide for themselves on what their standards are and what integrity means.

      As it should. It’s part of how a person learns independent thought and critical thinking.

      You’ve made your choice. Now Leave people to their’s.

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      You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.

      It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.

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        Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…

        Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?

        I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far

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          The audience can make up their mind on how to enjoy entertainment without your approval of their thoughts and experiences . That’s how free will works.

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            I’m not granting or denying approval to anyone… I simply wonder why people do certain stuff

            Go back to reddit to pick fights with strangers there!

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              You gave way too hard of an opinion to call that leading question ‘curiosity’.

              Go back to truth social where you can live in your little echo chamber and maybe stop baiting. You’re too fragile to be playing that game.

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                  You don’t need to seek approval and apologize for having free will. Nor does anyone owe you an apology for their own. And they don’t owe you an explanation for having it.

                  Lesson 1, little grasshopper.

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          I’m gonna be the first akshually here and point out that Cosby is a bad example because he DID present himself as a guiding voice and role model and came to fame by creating a cartoon showing inner city kids how to be good to each other and handle life issues.

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            and then theres people say the only way he could actually do that was getting inspiration from his rapes and SA.

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          It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).

          For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.

          In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.

          I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.

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            I also throw into the equation “How much time has passed?”

            I’m no massive fan but Mark Wahlberg is a good example, dude was a straight up violent racist asshole when he was young but the last thing was in 1992. I just cant bring myself to be mad at a 54yo for something he did 23 years ago.

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            After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)

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            seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.

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    I used to like Katy Perry’s music in high-school. Now shes super cringe hanging out with basically our version of Lex Luthor so I dont listen to her music anymore.

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        Went to space with Jeff Bezos. It was a tone deaf “omg were women going into space” when everyone cringed and saw it as “look what I can do when I befriend a billionaire”.

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          Don’t leave out how weird she started acting. Like it was 10 minutes but she acted like she was on shrooms and then her music got fucking weird as did her dancing and videos.

          It’s like she forgot how to be an artist and started acting like an amateur romping around in some basement.

          Maybe she’s dug into Elon’s stash.

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    Kevin Spacey. Bill Cosby. Danny Masterson. Steven Tyler. Anthony Kedis.

    They are all gross now that I know more about them; some moreso than others.

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      cringey how miley kunis and asthon kutcher were shilling for him, and then fleeing to the europe, because they are facing criticism or connection to him/ SA. Ellen did the same thing with diddy.

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        I kind of feel for people who were close with people who were outed as sex offenders, because they didnt come in on monday “Hey, Danny! How was your weekend?” “Bro I spiked a girls drink and raped her in my car, it was awesome.” I worked with a guy for years, his daughter had “issues” and then one day it came out that he was a sexual abuser of his own daughter. Which explained her mental health issues. In that case he quit his job, got his affairs in order and pled guilty. But I still remember thinking he was a great guy, until he wasnt… now I’m going to find it really hard to not pop his nose out the back of his fucking head if I ever run into him again.

        Now throw in the potential “attention seeking” behaviors that could happen with famous people, people hoping for a payout, jilted exes and someone you have known for years swearing up and down they didnt do it… Id want to support my friend too.

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          manipulators can be either party though. You have the manipulators swearing they didnt do it and you have the manipulators trying to extort.

          You also have people who don’t understand what they did was rape and while they claim they didnt rape: the details are exactly that.

          And often rapists are more believed over a rape victim.

          Hence why it often takes multiple victims for a rape charge.

          Also false accusation is not the same as inconclusive.

          Lots of nuance.

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      I feel like I’m the only one who was always creeper out by Kevin Spacey. American Beauty just seemed like blatant confirmation he was no good to me.

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        Yeah honestly I debated putting that one in. Under the Bridge is a solid song, and flea and the drummer are independently good.

        Honestly just wanted to remind people he admitted to dating a 16 year old when he was 24.

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      For me Bill Cosby was not surprising. Danny Masterson was disappointing. I havent yet heard what Steven Tyler or Kevin Spacey did and now I’m afraid to Google it. I have no idea who Anthony Kiedis is.

      …just looked them all up…sigh, yeah. I’m with you. It does make it impossible to appreciate the art with that knowledge.

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    there is something about celebrity worship to be inferred from the fact that there is only 1 non-american celebrity listed in this tgread (spanish news anchor).

    that or it is selection bias

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    musk

    There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen

    there’s a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2

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      Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one about people saying how Elon never invented anything or founded anything and it was all a persona. I believed it though and all that climate change stuff I thought was genuine.

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      Yeah, I was never a true believer or fanboy, but back before he lost his mind and fired his PR department, I was cool with the electric cars, space exploration, solar roofs, trains, and even fun flamethrowers.

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    Snoop Dogg. Black man playing songs at an orange man’s klan rally, at this point Martha Stewart is more gangster than he is.

    By the same token, my respect for Kendrick went up 1000% after his halftime show.

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      Yup, coward has been in hiding since the first negative articles came out. Just another sad human showing his greed over what is right.

      Hmm maybe there should be a new strain out there sold as Snoop Sellout Kush.

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        I’m ok with people shutting the fuck up and disappearing when they get called out for being arseholes. In fact, I wish more people were capable of that.

        I must have missed the latest Snoop Drama, but don’t bother to update me - I don’t care about Snoop. He always struck me as a dude that’s just constantly baked and will say yes to pretty much anything without too much scrutiny, so he can turn up pretty much ANYWHERE. That’s bound to backfire eventually.

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        If I ran a grow op I’d name that strain and funnel the proceeds to help trans kids with counseling and support, just to point the middle finger directly at their latest boogeyman.

        Shame since he’s been an icon for so long and helped a lot of kids with the football program, but I guess above a certain level of wealth the only religion you follow is money and everything else including morality is just an opportunity for profit.

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    Mike Rowe.

    Had a really good following when he did Dirty Jobs and then did a hard pivot to conservative, anti-union, pro-profiteering talking head.

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      In recent years, television personality Mike Rowe has amassed a wildly popular following due to alleged working-class straight talk about topics ranging from the affordability of college to reasserting a culture of pride in craftsmanship and labor. From his 5.2 million Facebook followers to his cable programs, his everyman schtick, on its surface, can be very appealing: after all, who doesn’t love a hard day’s work and loathe detached, ivory tower eggheads?

      But hiding under his superficially appealing blue-collar façade is dangerous ideology, one funded by the Koch Brothers and other far-right, anti-labor corporate interests and specifically tailored to pick off a certain constituency of Home Depot Democrats while pushing political impotence, anti-union narratives and anti-intellectualism. Through a clever combination of working class affectation and folksy charm – often exploiting real fears about a decline in industrialization – Rowe has cultivated an image that claims to be pro-worker, but primarily exists to line the pockets of their boss.

      Our guest is Street Fight Radio’s Bryan Quinby.

      https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/citationsneeded/CN64_20190130_rowe_quinby2.mp3?dest-id=542191

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        of course the Koch brothers involved, its either Koch, OR putin funded.

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          Thats why EVERY SINGLE MENTION of “Soros!” has to be immediately responded with “Kochs”

          Edit: fick thus gpddamn jryboard

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      oh yea, we knew his allegience when trump won his 1st term, he gave the interview “its not so bad, and you should accept it” yea we know your trying to surgar coat your support for him.

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          when trump stole his 1st term

          proven in court by the way

          I’m not familiar with that. Can you cite a source, please?

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      Anyone who does a “buy gold” commercial is instantaneously persona non grata for me. Such a remarkable litmus test. Mike Rowe is one of them.

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      I like him. He feels like one of the only podcast guests out there who actually acknowledges that not everyone works in an office or a startup.