Thanks. And yeah, I have edited my post to clarify. I generally pay very little attention to the day to day market conditions. So I just failed to take into account how many people are panicking because of the recent drop. I’ve been thinking about this for a couple weeks.

I will have to look up that 10k thing. That sounds like a smart idea with very little downside.

My thought are that the US is alienating more and more countries everyday. And maybe other countries may become less willing to aid US persecution of it’s own people, and less afraid of US sanctions if the US is already making trading with the US pointless. So my thinking was maybe international investment companies might have some amount of insulation. But I don’t really know a lot about how the money works behind the scenes.

Yeah, I don’t intend to flee easily. But my family is special… if they start targeting people like us, I may feel I have to flee to keep my kids safe. I wouldn’t want to cash out of the market, just maybe change who is managing it to protect it from the US gov if they come after us.

Actually I was thinking about this unrelated to the current market drop. It is fear based, but not based on the dropping market. Moving money now would certainly be terrible. I am thinking farther foreward and just wanting to know my options.

While my family aren’t immigrants, we are not far below them on the list of targets for this administration. So the time may come when the gov goes after us and we feel we need to flee before the gov targets us specifically. I just don’t know if there is anything I can do to ensure I will have access to money if we feel we need to flee.

In the case of investments it would be more like a transfer, then a pull out in my head. Maybe there are institutions I could move some of my investments to that would be out of reach of the US gov for example. I do have an after tax brokerage account for example. Not a ton in it, but unlike retirement money, it is probably free to move without penalty.

We are all unique, just like everyone else.

But it was a serious question actually. Probably doesn’t read that way though. I’m on the older side, so I might not know about what the kids are doing with thier bank accounts these days.

You are probably just trolling, but your point is not entirely wrong. If you have been advertising your house as the land of the free, and specifically compare your house to other houses that aren’t free, it changes the picture a bit. Then add on that you let anyone from your neighborhood trash talk your house, but anyone from outside the neighborhood that you invite in you don’t. That would be pretty unreasonable.

But let’s get it a bit closer to what is happening. You actually post rules at the door of the house. They say not only are you allowed to trash talk the house, but there is an appointed 3rd party who’s job it is to decide if you broke the rules before any punitive action is taken. But then once inside you ignore your own rules and the appointed 3rd party’s rulling.

And one more step to get closer to the real case. The person wasn’t even trash talking your house. They were actually trash talking a different house on the other side of the neighborhood. One they actually lived closer to than you. And one that nearly the whole neighborhood says is in the wrong.

Now you are closer to what is happening.

And I know a serious answer probably wasn’t needed here, but on the off chance, I wanted to support serious discussion on opposing opinions.

Actually, what is hard about changing banks? I give my bank info to as few entities as possible. And almost all of them would take a few clicks and possibly a few days to verify some tiny transaction and I would be done. Changing credit cards is far harder. But also. Why are you using the banks app on your phone. That phone is probably the least secure electronic you own. The attack surface on that thing is absolutely huge.

Oddly, millionaires aren’t really the middle class. House’s in California routinely cost more than a million dollars. And a lot of people probably have a million dollars of retirement in one form or another. (Pensions have a value that very often tops a million). The middle class you are describing (athletes and pop stars) probably are more like 100 million or something. We just don’t have a good name for that.

That is a sure way to end up dead.