• magnetosphere@fedia.io
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    9 hours ago

    Huh. I always took the term “lost cause” at face value, and thought it simply meant that the confederacy was hopeless and doomed to fail. I didn’t realize it was based on hypocrisy and lies. Thanks for the heads up!

    Edit: the more I read that Wikipedia page, the angrier I get

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      5 hours ago

      Shit, if you think you’re mad now, wait until you run into someone that’s still running that line of bullshit in 2025

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    I’ve always heard it called the “Lost Cause Of The South” by racist rednecks; they seem to be aware enough (or someone was, whoever it is they’re parroting) to attempt to distance it as much as possible from terminology that associates it with slavery because otherwise it looks even worse. Even though slavery is absolutely what it was all about.

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      5 hours ago

      …likewise; my wife was apoplectic when i suggested that the civil war was about secession…

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        Can you explain that a little more? I’m guessing you meant secession, but even then I don’t get what you mean. Like, they seceded but the topic would be about WHY they did that.

        But I’m probably missing something.

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          (yes, secession; autocorrect squiggled it into another word as i was typing)

          …just that, though: we were taught that emancipation was just one of many issues stemming from increasingly-fundamental differences in economic, social, and international policy, and that the war itself precipitated from the southern states asserting a right to secession and sovereignty which the federal government did not grant…

          …we were also taught that spark was actually southern states’ seizure of federal assets…

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          my fucking midwestern education was like that. the textbooks said that there was an open question about whether states have the right to secede from the union as if the Confederacy was just Just Asking Questions

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      10 hours ago

      I had struggled with AP Euro in high school and had decided to just take regular US history the following year. Absolute mistake. My teacher was the football coach and was a huge proponent for the ‘states rights’ BS. This was in one of the better funded school districts in SoCal.

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      10 hours ago

      Weird we learned that it was states rights to own people in VA Middle School and how the plantation system worked