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America won’t stop until absolutly everything is a partisan issue
Subjectivism enables propaganda and propaganda enables polarization.
And currently there is no solution and owners love it this way.
While slaves fight culture wars, they are dominating the class war.
No, the news conglomerates won’t stop.
No one I know actually thinks like this, but it’s easy to run made up problems 24 hrs a day, than point out actual corruption like every career politician insider trading.
People do think like this. News and media have issues but what you picture here is just over the top. Also not every x does y.
Then let the stupid people pay the price.
Majority of x does y. I know, I know, not your side I’m sure!
Unfortunately, that’s not how vaccines work. They only work if the stupid people and the non-stupid people all get vaccinated to create herd immunity.
Kinda the same deal as COVID. It will affect the people getting vaccinations, too. And some regular people cannot have vaccinations, for good reasons. So, this affects people outside of the group of stupids.
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Great, now you just made having partisan issues a partisan issue.
That is so like your type to point out their making partisan issues partisan issues. We certainly don’t think like that.
Which part of America.
I will give you two guesses:-)
I remember that teaching about evolution was controversial back in 1991. But that was after getting my vaccines. But if all science is bad… I’m bringing back the evolution debate!
Please support quality education. We are constantly surrounded by propaganda. If you don’t see it, it’s probably already affecting your decisions. This whole “vaccines cause autism” rumor was started by a Playboy model with a potty mouth. Not a credible doctor.
And you know what’s worse than the fear of giving your kid autism? A dead kid!
I’m so, so sick of stupid people ruining the world because they have a constant need to feel morally superior to other people by being terrible human beings.
Andrew Wakefield was a porn star and started vaccine denial?
In the US. It was Jenny McCarthy, she really gained a lot of popular and supporting attention around her wrong views, supported by the fraudulent research of Andrew Wakefield.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_McCarthy#Activism
Though its interesting this section of her bio is labeled under “Activism” and not “Controversy”.
And she got the idea from Andrew Wakefield’s paper before he was ejected from the British medical field.
Vaccine denial is about 2 weeks younger than effective vaccinations.
Jenny McCarthy is a footnote.
She was a celebrity so she had the status and power to stand up on a soap box and start yelling. I think you’re understating her influence on the American Public. She was on a popular day time talk show ‘The View’ for a while that lots of parents watched while home with their kids during the day.
Also, I honestly don’t know why we’re arguing about this. Both of these people suck and are responsible for the vaccine denial around us. I’m leaving it at that
Well, she isn’t cited anymore but they still cite the paper and call Wakefield a dr.
Edit: I geuss fuck me if I want accuracy.
Lol alright dude.
Person A: why are we arguing? This is stupid. I’m done arguing.
Person B: continues arguing
I’m gonna go listen to the Monty Python skit now.
Would you like a 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
But if all science is bad… I’m bringing back the evolution debate!
Oh please don’t. We still have stickers on our textbooks.
Teaching about evolution controversial in 1991?! Where did you grow up? This wasn’t controversial in the 80s in central Europe.
The Midwest. This is the huge red spot in the middle of the country where people would prefer to experience polio for themselves (their children at least) rather than take some libruls’ word for it.
Sounds “nice”. Freedom, I guess
This generation has never seen the ravegaes that these preventable diseases can reek.
These vaccines are the pinnacle of health care research and most were given away for free by those who discovered them… They gave away millions in potential licensing fees for the greater good of humanity… Now that gift is being spit up on by people who have no idea what they are talking about.
What a disgrace.
that’s one of the side effects of the poor education in the USA… test oriented education focuses on scoring high on tests and general knowledge items such as the history of public health and vaccines are neglected, or if they are discussed, they are discussed in kindergarten terms
I’m pretty sure the people that did well in school are not the ones who don’t support vaccines though
Wish that was the case…
I mean if you know about the Tuskegee experiments you might understand why a certain group of people are skeptical about ANY kind of government “vaccine”.
The TL:DR is that the US CDC injected people with syphilis but told them it was a vaccine, just so they could see what the long term effects of syphilis were when you didn’t get treatment. 100 people died as guinea pigs.
The fact that you changed “spit on” to “spit up on” was perfect. These are emotional toddlers flailing their arms and kicking their feet and accidentally spitting up on all of us and everything sane. Kudos
I used to agree with that. But then Covid happened and I listened to people on the radio call in saying “we gotta let a few old people go to save the exonomy.” As though human life was an acceptable cost.
I genuinely thought people at least were ignorant to the death tole to then but I was mistaken. It got so bad the host cut off calls.
The vaccine then came out and I watched millions shun it, despite being shown to be safe and effective. Sure, some folks thought they were dangerous (disinformation and all) but that radio show told me, some people want the world to burn.
There are people who saw devastation and don’t get vaccinated because it’s an acceptable loss.
Failed state is collapsing. Here’s Tom with the weather.
That’s actually hilarious, tell me you’ve never been to the United States without actually telling me.
It’s a shithole. You’re probably just living on top of the pile (of shit).
Yeah it’s really not though. You really need to get out of your mom’s basement before you pretend to be an authority on what constitutes a “shithole country”.
Lol people who always throw the “mom’s basement” shit always strike me as people who live in their mom’s basement
As an american it is in fact a shithole even if the area I live in is (IMO) the most beautiful area on earth. And the politics of this area are good so I probably won’t be sent to a concentration camp until the federal government starts taking over states at least.
I live in the US which is why I know for sure it’s a failing empire. We already lost most of our respect on the world stage. Dollar losing value. Allies realize we are too unstable. The only thing we still have is a military that will fuck anyone who we want to. But give it time, we’re a few decades from instead of being below most of the other first world nations in any given metric, being far below all of them. This vaccination shit alone will kill millions. We are fucked. What are you smoking to not see it?
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We ain’t got no vaccine for stupidity but even if there was one half the US would be too stupid to take it
Ummmm, the “education” vaccine is pretty effective with the right ingredients.
The problem is that the vaccine regimen is very expensive, and the government is run by people who use every single failure of the regimen to push for a less-strict regimen, which causes more failures. They do this because they actively profit from a populace infected with stupidity.
Yes, analogous to drug companies emphasizing treatment over cure.
Fortunately, we also educate each other daily through casual and professional encounters, so we can work towards a culture that appreciates education.
Seems like the vaccine for anti-vaxxers is anti-vaxxers.
The vaccine for stupidity is dying of polio and it’s about to make an appearance.
Wouldn’t THAT vaccine be a paradox though? The half that would take it don’t need it, and the half that need it are…ya know…listening to Alex Jones conspiracy theories.
Gross. I hate this anti-science bullshit.
All sane states and provinces should require vaccine records in order to cross state/provincial lines from fucked up states.
I don’t want people with filthy biblical diseases coming and getting us sick when herd immunity collapses.
Pretty sure this would violate the constitution which guarantees our rights to travel freely between states unimpeded. I’m sure there’s ways to make it where people who decide to stay have to prove they’re safe to work with, but that’s just by increasing standards across the state rather than profiling outsiders.
Yeah the US is somewhere between the EU/EEZ/Shengen area and any constituent nation. Putting a hard border between Illinois and Indiana is less legally feasible than one between France and Belgium, but more feasible than one between Paris and Marseilles
The constitution needs to be changed anyway.
Funny how with technology people are getting dumber and tricked even easier
It’s not “with technology”, it’s despite technology.
It’s a decades long attack on education, public acceptance of low skill low wage unqualified teachers, and a complete lack of critical thinking in most of the population.
They don’t understand how vaccines work, they don’t understand statistics, they don’t understand chemistry, they don’t know how to research despite having the total sum of human knowledge at their fingertips. You tell them vaccines are made from fetuses and harms your children and they stop processing beyond that.
It’s also that the dumbest among us have massive reach and we haven’t culturally adapted to it. Similar shit happened with radio.
We were supposed to have flying cars, instead we have to tell half the population that plagues are bad. The future is dumb.
I assume, if they’re a MAGAt, that they are antivax. That’s thirty percent of the fucking country.
And stupid.
And amoral.
And generally just horrid people who should be shunned and made fun of.
We’re doomed. If 51% of the country has decided, based on a neverending stream of lies, that we should all die rather than receive basic health care, then there’s really nothing much left to argue about. America has has decided it would rather commit suicide than acknowledge that there are people who DO know what they’re talking about and actually listen to them.
That’s it. We’re done. We’re all gonna die of some easily preventable plague because we didn’t fucking ostracize these idiots twenty years ago. The country is now run by the people who actually believe the comical lies the GOP used to tell to keep the idiots compliant. I don’t think you can come back from that.
49%. 51% is in favor of vaccinating, at least according to the title.
Although if we want a more pessimistic view
If we assume that “eligible voters” is a roughly representative sample of the country in general, well over 51 percent of the country either voted for this (directly by voting for trump, or indirectly by voting 3rd party) or didn’t care enough to even show up and vote.
Because that’s what happened. Something like 3/4 of eligible voters decided that this was an acceptable outcome.
It’s just history man. Most of us in the first world are, for the first time, on the wrong end of it. The Expanse called it the churn.
Some part of me is laughing, “Have y’all not studied history?!” It’s our time to witness the fall of the empire. But hey! The 80s and 90s were fucking sweet in America!
People have talked about this before, but it really does seem like people have forgotten how bad some of these diseases could get and how much vaccines helped us. In 1991 plenty of folk remembered polio, maybe even had a relative who got it. Good number remembered smallpox and/or got that shot themselves. But now less and less people really understand both the scale of devastation those diseases caused and the scale of how many were helped and saved by vaccines.
It’s sadly funny in a way…
Historic documents, photos, studies, documentaires telling about real diseases and how we beat them not that long ago. Fake news I sleep.
Some book tells about some bullshit magic 2000 years ago written by idiots that didn’t know germs existed. Real shit!
Every fucking day some Americans are allowing their enemies to win by defeating themselves with lies.
The power of disinformation…
Florida is like the last nail in the coffin for whether or not to stay. What’s the point in staying if our country isn’t even afraid of smallpox and polio.
Smallpox is probably why we have contemporary anti-vaxxers. Without a lethal, Flood-like disease, people quickly think that it’s okay to just be fucking disgusting and let themselves and their kids get everyone sick.
People will learn why we vaccinate against the fucked up, biblical diseases of yestercentury.
