A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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    It’s the fifth largest global economy…

    It’s hard proof that most of their policy is complete bullshit, because if they were right, liberal social policy and taxes would have chased all the wealthy away.

    But it doesn’t, because people want to live in places with that kind of policy

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      California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

      It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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        Oh dear, I have to post it again:

        Fuck the south

        Look at the economies of southern red states. They’re fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

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          I had a hard time getting the page to load, so I’m just gonna copy fuck the south here for anyone else that can’t load the page:

          *November 3, 2004

          Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they’d stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

          And now what do we get? We’re the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

          Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn’t bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?

          No, No. Get the fuck out. We’re not letting you visit the Liberty Bell and fucking Plymouth Rock anymore until you get over your real American selves and start respecting those other nine amendments. Who do you think those fucking stripes on the flag are for? Nine are for fucking blue states. And it would be 10 if those Vermonters had gotten their fucking Subarus together and broken off from New York a little earlier. Get it? We started this shit, so don’t get all uppity about how real you are you Johnny-come-lately “Oooooh I’ve been a state for almost a hundred years” dickheads. Fuck off.

          Arrogant? You wanna talk about us Northeasterners being fucking arrogant? What’s more American than arrogance? Hmmm? Maybe horsies? I don’t think so. Arrogance is the fucking cornerstone of what it means to be American. And I wouldn’t be so fucking arrogant if I wasn’t paying for your fucking bridges, bitch.

          All those Federal taxes you love to hate? It all comes from us and goes to you, so shut up and enjoy your fucking Tennessee Valley Authority electricity and your fancy highways that we paid for. And the next time Florida gets hit by a hurricane you can come crying to us if you want to, but you’re the ones who built on a fucking swamp. “Let the Spanish keep it, it’s a shithole,” we said, but you had to have your fucking orange juice.

          The next dickwad who says, “It’s your money, not the government’s money” is gonna get their ass kicked. Nine of the ten states that get the most federal fucking dollars and pay the least… can you guess? Go on, guess. That’s right, motherfucker, they’re red states. And eight of the ten states that receive the least and pay the most? It’s too easy, asshole, they’re blue states. It’s not your money, assholes, it’s fucking our money. What was that Real American Value you were spouting a minute ago? Self reliance? Try this for self reliance: buy your own fucking stop signs, assholes.

          Let’s talk about those values for a fucking minute. You and your Southern values can bite my ass because the blue states got the values over you fucking Real Americans every day of the goddamn week. Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It’s fucking Massachusetts, the fucking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that’s right, the state you love to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fucking nation. Think that’s just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fucking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fucking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fucking red-ass we’re-so-fucking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fucking part.

          But two guys making out is going to fucking ruin marriage for you? Yeah? Seems like you’re ruining it pretty well on your own, you little bastards. Oh, but that’s ok because you go to church, right? I mean you do, right? Cause we fucking get to hear about it every goddamn year at election time. Yes, we’re fascinated by how you get up every Sunday morning and sing, and then you’re fucking towers of moral superiority. Yeah, that’s a workable formula. Maybe us fucking Northerners don’t talk about religion as much as you because we’re not so busy sinning, hmmm? Ever think of that, you self-righteous assholes? No, you’re too busy erecting giant stone tablets of the Ten Commandments in buildings paid for by the fucking Northeast Liberal Elite. And who has the highest murder rates in the nation? It ain’t us up here in the North, assholes.

          Well this gravy train is fucking over. Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

          And no, you can’t have your fucking convention in New York next time. Fuck off. *

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      It ain’t perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it’s far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

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        less gun violence rates, compared to red states. one of the favorite things to rail on about california is the gun violence, and they always misinformed. despite having a larger population with gun violence its less than places like texas.

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    Because caring for the environment and creating social programs is scary to them.

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    The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

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    It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

    They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they’ll love it.

    There’s a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they’re flyover states, they know they’re never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn’t take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There’s some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn’t even manage that…

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      You’re thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They’ve never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can’t conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.

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        They weren’t going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there’s nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn’t coming back and there’s not much else for money in west Virginia.

        Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there’s a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)

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          its most like the vicinity of Ports which have the greatest economic value, you arnt getting that a middle of nowhere state. plus other things like arable land for farming, the climate, the jobs.

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        I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it’s not what makes the state so attractive to live in.

        People don’t like a cloistered lifestyle unless they’ve lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to ‘flyover states’ have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.

        It’s extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn’t have the opportunities we did.

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    Everybody loves finding things in common with other people.

    Since California is percieved by the right to be a “liberal stronghold”, it is easy for them to bond over a shared hatred of it. Regardless of whether or not that hate is based in fact.

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    California is successful. It is the strongest economy of the US, and one of the strongest economies in comparison to other, complete, countries. And it dares not to be Republican!

    On the other hand, most Republican states could not survive without federal handouts, mostly supplied by more successful Democratic states.

    It is envy, plain and simple.

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    Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of “liberals”, etc. etc.

    And yet, it’s the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

    They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

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      “B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!”

      To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It’s a myth.

      Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

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    In integral part of conservative ideology is hatred and California’s been a target for decades. When the acceptance of gays became too widespread they switched to hatred and vilification of transgender Americans. When the general population gets tired of listening to them screech about that they’ll find someone/something else. For some reason they don’t get tired of whining about CA.

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    From what I can tell from up in Canada, it’s a more ‘liberal’ leaning state according to their metric and they don’t like that.

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      they think its a hellhole, because of all the homeless and junkies, but they arnt telling the whole truth when red states are the ones putting them on buses to MA, NYC, WASHINGTON, california, also whining about the income taxes, property taxes.

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    California is strictly better than every red state in almost every measure. They literally hate it because it directly disproves their worldview that conservatives are good for the economy.