Edit: I don’t mean someone that will sacrifice their life for yours, more someone who would go out of their way to rush you to the hospital or something
just a few and that’s ok. people will make good and bad things and there are a few with whom you’ll really get along with. keep them close.
I have trusted humans in the past. They have always failed me. Humans are not to be trusted. Just look at the state of the terrarium we live in.
“Good” or “trust my life with”? The two can be mutually exclusive. If I was in the wrong, would a good person defend me?
I’ve met a few people with genuinely good morals in my life. They do exist and are almost incorruptible. Most people are flexible in that we can make justifications for almost anything.
Good? Many The other is completely different thing independent of being ‘a good person’
I think the number is a lot higher and the barrier of trust a lot lower than people think.
If you come across a vehicle accident and you are able to help someone generally people don’t even think and just take action to save another persons life.
In reactionary scenarios where direct intervention saves someone’s life, people help a lot more than you’d think.
As a species we generally have a bypass in our brains that makes us want to help others in desperate need.
Having actually been rushed to hospital when I was a kid by my friends after a big accident on my bike I would say the number is higher than you might think. They even walked by bike back home, which considering it was miles from home was pretty mad for teenagers.
I would say at least 20 people I know who are close to me either have done something I would consider above and beyond for me already or I know for sure would do so. Thats not counting any relatives.
Having lived here for over half a century now, and having met a ton of people and having get to know a solid portion of them better, I could safely say:
My wife and myself. The rest I would not bet a TicTac on. Homo homini lupus est. People are nice to you, even seem like “good people”, but, as another comment or already said, people are contextual.
Be a tiny bit different from the mass and you’d notice why. People are nice to you as long as you provide some kind of benefit to them. Now or in the future. Even worse if you have money and they know it.
Yet, Despite me being misanthropic as hell, I still do care about my fellow species-members (everything living actually) and do voluntary work for disabled people and stuff like that. And yes, I know that most of them would probably sell me to one of Dante’s circles of hell to get rid of their disability. But there are always some pearls somewhere in the ocean. It’s worth finding them. Tiresome and frustrating, but worth it.
Zero. Become partially disabled for over a decade and you might understand. Sometimes surviving is worse than dying. You might become a different person you might not, but you will likely discover how everyone in your life is largely there in relative orbits. If you get knocked out of the stellar system, what you thought of as the planets that grounded your social world will not leave the star to chase after you no matter how much you need them to.
Absolutely. I’m not disabled but I can say with confidence there are genuinely zero good people on this planet. Me included. People are truly only in it for themselves and will cast aside and trample anyone who gets in their way.
Learned that first from my parents. Even if they’re related to you, they will throw you under the bus at their earliest convenience.
I know several people who would give up anything on hand to help if needed. There are plenty of good people in this world. If you’re willing to give, you will find those willing to help
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I don’t think it’s wise to ever trust another person 100%. You should be aware that anyone could turn on you in the correct situation with the correct pressures.
You’re right, but sometimes you need someone to hold the other end of the rope when you lower yourself over a cliff.
Unfortunately if I’m going over a cliff it’s a solo adventure and I don’t plan on coming back up.
Damn fren.
It’s just logical.
the sort of logic that’s fundamentally irrational.
How? Anyone you know could betray you at any moment for various reasons. Simply because it’s unlikely doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
and your heart could fail at any moment randomly. doesnt make it rational to design your whole life around it. Yes people can betray your trust, but again and again and again it’s been shown that people dont betray eachother far far more often than they do. Also, if you’re big on Logic™️, lying only works if the vast majority of communication is truthful.
I mean you are making sense. I still don’t see the issue with keeping a little bit in reserve for those potentialities.
sure, im not saying blindly trust people in all situations. but distrust should be exceptional, not normal.
There are no good or bad people.
Ah yes, John Wayne Gacy, what a terrible loss for society! /s
The fuck out of here, you dumbass.
I didn’t say people didn’t do bad things and make bad choices. I’m sorry you’re not able to understand that.
Can you tell me why you believe serial killers are neither good or bad
They do bad things. If a rabid dog attacks a child, killing it, is the dog bad? If a priest gives comfort to a dying man then molests a child is he good then bad? No he’s neither. The actions are good or bad; the individual is neither.
You do understand dogs that attack people unprovoked are put down everyday right? And to compare a dog’s critical thinking to a human’s is asinine.
A priest is allowed to molest kids as long as he does good things to balance it? If you truly believe that then you are out of your mind.
You’ve got an interesting sense of logic
Look, you can interpret what I said anyway you like, but regardless I’m correct. If a serial killer believes himself to be “good” and you believe him to be “bad” which one of you is correct? How about a man that wants so badly to murder everyone he meets but doesn’t ever do it? Is he a good man as long as he doesn’t act?
Those are completely different situations? So you believe serial killers are good and someone who doesn’t actually kill is the same as a serial killer. Good lord man, you need to either stop the drugs or start taking some.
Don’t bother me with your insanity anymore
Reading comprehension is truly a lost art…
I know way more people who would at least attempt to save my life in an emergency than I think are genuinely good people. But I do actually think that’s part of identifying a decent person. Empathizing with someone suffering in front of you and wanting to help is such a low standard for empathy that even untrained animals sometimes pass this bar. Empathizing with living things more broadly and outside of your personal bubble is a task that’s apparently too much to ask of most people I’ve met. Good way to gauge this is to get someone talking for a bit about the unhoused population of their hometown.
I think animals are much more capable of empathy than the average person
The answer is contextual, just like people are contextual. Sometimes, my circles are all busy or stressed out and we can’t really be there for each other. Other times, strangers have saved me, like the couple that took me in when lockdowns started and I was far from home.
Have you heard of the Stanford Prison Experiment? Or the Princeton Seminarian experiment? Or the Milgram Experiment? All of them confirm that people are contextual. That’s lesson 1 in psychology, but we humans easily forget it. We focus on the person and forget the context. That folly of ours even has a name: Fundamental Attribution Error.
Fwiw Stanford was basically a scam. The story as it’s usually told is a lie, and its results are in serious contention, even beyond the usual replication issues psychology studies have.
Milgram is a good study, and even seems to have survived multiple replication attenpts, but its results are often overstated in their broader applicability. Notably: there are issues around the idea that it is “authority” that causes people to comply, as is usually claimed, instead of a belief in “expertise” or trust in the system (e.g. that a university-authorised study is obviously not going to kill people). Still, the conclusions are good enough for the purposes of your comment here.
