I’ve seen people bring this up as another federated aggregator just recently, and I have a few questions,

  1. What advantages/disadvantages does it have over Lemmy? I’m more interested in user experience stuff (I have PTSD from moderating a community on reddit years ago and way too little free time to be an admin), but the technical stuff is interesting (even if I only like 40% understand it).

  2. Can I see and interact with PieFed instances and communities from a federated Lemmy instance? What about the other way around?

  3. Is there a way for people to migrate an account from Lemmy to PieFed? What about the other way around?

  4. What android app options are available for PieFed? Sorry, “the website is the app” is not how I like to do it

  5. Any other questions you think I should be asking?

  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devM
    4·
    3 hours ago

    1. According to the dev and some people, the frontend is more performant than Lemmy/Kbin/Mbin due to the smaller data sizes. I read that it was because the dev came from some african (?) city where they only had like what, 2G internet connections? As for the disadvantages, I can’t say I find it great that it is written in Python. I don’t like interpreted languages in production. That’s all. Comparing the performance of it and the backend of Lemmy wouldn’t be fair, since Lemmy’s backend is written in Rust (compiled).

    2. Yes. Though not all features are federated (yet), for example flairs.

    3. Unless platforms start implementing the DID standard, this will be hacky to accomplish without weird artifacts. One other way is to do it how Mastodon does it, but that does not bring your content with it.

    4. Afaik only Interstellar supports it atm.

    5. No.

    I don’t see myself switching to it anytime soon.

  • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
    10·
    5 hours ago

    It’s much better at federation than Lemmy.

    But the coolest thing is that it does not need to be a competition. Both platforms can do good in the federation.

    But if you want to give it a try Piefed.social

    • CoyoteFacts@piefed.caEnglish
      2·
      2 hours ago

      It’s much better at federation than Lemmy.

      Do you have an example or source for what this means? Like is it faster/more efficient to propagate things, more featureful in what it federates, etc.?

      • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        2 hours ago

        Peertube channels seem to have real issues on Lemmy. They fixed the links earlier in the year…then it broke again. That’s just one instance.

        Piefed works out of the box and if you upvote, it shows up on the peertube instance. Comments as well. Take a look at !peertube@lemmy.world on both lemmy.world and piefed.social. you can see the difference when clicking on someone’s account.

    • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.worldOP
      6·
      4 hours ago

      But the coolest thing is that it does not need to be a competition. Both platforms can do good in the federation.

      100% agreed, I’d even go further and say that having a diversity of systems makes for a more resilient ActivityPub ecosystem. It’s not only non-competitive, it’s inherently cooperative.

      The fact that PieFed and Lemmy work interchangeably with each other is wonderful, and that plus the fact that I’m lazy means I’m probably going to keep primarily going through lemmy.world for now, but I’m definitely going to keep thinking about it and checking up on it.

  • LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    3 hours ago
    1. It is more opinionated than Lemmy. Comments with -10 score are automatically collapsed, users with low karma have icon next to their name, 4Chan screenshots are automatically reported.
    • CoyoteFacts@piefed.caEnglish
      3·
      2 hours ago

      The comment collapsing I think is fine; Lemmy-style forums already heavily rely on voting to move content around, and I think net -10 is a pretty good indicator that the comment in question has bad info, is a troll, or is otherwise not good content (as voted by the local community).

      The low karma icon I’m seeing out in the wild and honestly, so far every time I see someone with that icon I look at that profile and sure enough there really are a lot of downvoted comments and antagonistic behavior. It’s probably handy to determine whether someone is sealioning, trolling, or just otherwise has a lot of bad takes (again, as voted by their local community) before deciding whether to waste energy trying to engage in a thoughtful conversation.

      4chan screenshots being reported is pretty opinionated (the rationale being that it’s not about the content itself, it’s about the normalization of 4chan and the enablement of the alt-right pipeline it provides), but hopefully it’s at least optional?

  • simple@piefed.socialEnglish
    22·
    6 hours ago

    What advantages/disadvantages does it have over Lemmy?

    It has more features, such as flairs, a way to move communities somewhere else, the ability to see comments from all crossposts, multi-communities, and it has a much faster development pace. The UX still needs some work, but that can be improved over time.

    From a technical perspective it’s made with Python which is much, much easier to use than Rust and attracts more contributors. From what I understand it’s easier to host too.

    Can I see and interact with PieFed instances and communities from a federated Lemmy instance? What about the other way around?

    Yes and yes.

    Is there a way for people to migrate an account from Lemmy to PieFed? What about the other way around?

    You can export your Lemmy account settings and import them to Piefed, but not the other way around.

    What android app options are available for PieFed?

    https://interstellar.jwr.one/

    • gAlienLifeform@lemmy.worldOP
      5·
      4 hours ago

      You can export your Lemmy account settings and import them to Piefed, but not the other way around

      Does account settings include a user’s subscribed communities?

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
      7·
      6 hours ago

      with Python which is much, much easier to use than Rust and attracts more contributors. From what I understand it’s easier to host too.

      I can’t imagine it’s much easier than Lemmy. As far as self hosting goes Lemmy is pretty standard. And with PieFed being python it’s bound to be less efficient at the same scale.

  • Nusm@yall.theatl.socialEnglish
    12·
    7 hours ago
    1. Found this through a Google search: Piefed has a few nice features that Lemmy and Mbin lack:
    • instance blocking
    • comments combination, posts only appear once
    • keyword filter
    • topics (admin-managed feeds)
    • user-managed feeds, public and private
    • tags
    • flairs
    • multi communities

    1. Yes & yes. They’re built on ActivityPub and interact with each other, though the things that PieFed offers that Lemmy doesn’t (like tags) aren’t visible from Lemmy. And Lemmy can subscribe and interact with posts from PieFed.

    2. Yes. There is a way to export all your details through the Lemmy settings and import through PieFed settings, and vice versa.

    3. App support is sparse at the moment, but the Interstellar app (https://interstellar.jwr.one/) for Android works with PieFed.

    4. Can’t think of anything.

      • peregrin5@lemm.eeEnglish
        8·
        6 hours ago

        Imo, no good IOS mobile apps. Mlem, Voyager and others are great. If something similar existed for PieFed I would dump my lemmy account immediately. They now have Interstellar but it’s not stellar.

      • Nusm@yall.theatl.socialEnglish
        22·
        7 hours ago

        the things that PieFed offers that Lemmy doesn’t (like tags) aren’t visible from Lemmy

        I’m far from a PieFed expert (I’ve only just started using it a little) but this is the main disadvantage.

    • RandomStickman@fedia.io
      2·
      6 hours ago

      Would you know if there’s a way to export from Mbin to Piefed?

      I find it kinda funny how Piefed seems to have blew up over mbin lol

      • jollyroberts@jolly-piefed.jomandoa.netEnglish
        7·
        6 hours ago

        I don’t think we support mbin export/import ATM, but I’ve not tried

        I added Lemmy export and import to piefed a while back.

        I have a note to go work on the piefed export to Lemmy import on my List. It worked a while ago but seems unhappy at the moment. I’ll add mbin export to the List as well.