Imagine living in a universe where, without even trying, you can run so fast that if you trip, you will die and splatter your body over a couple hundred meters of ground. And if you trip into someone, it’ll kill them and possibly an entire pile of people.
Like, in motor racing, the cars get wrecked but the drivers are fine. In the movie Cars, they all die. The race spectators are watching a blood sport.
It’s better than the Bee Movie.
Imagine your wife leaving you for a fucking bee.
Also the message didn’t sit right with me unless I missed a bit. It quite clearly draws parallels between Beekind and slavery/prejudices, and shows the hero overcoming the system and liberating the bees.
Then at the end “actually slavery good lol”
Many kid movies raise some troubling implications about personhood and moral agency with anthropomorphized non-human characters (Toy Story and life/death/abandonment, what do obligate carnivores in Zootopia eat, etc.).
But Bee Movie inexplicably just dives right into it instead of leaving it unexplored on the edges. If the bees are fully intelligent beings with rich inner experiences, what moral obligation do we owe them? It’s a mess of a concept.
I looked at it more like collective bargaining. They all went on strike and got fair pay for their labor
We’re watching a blood sport in real life, too. NASCAR viewership declined as the sport got safer over the years following the death of Dale Earnhardt. Earnhardt dying at Daytona is like if Tom Brady got his spinal cord fractured by a rough tackle at the Super Bowl, but deaths on the track were common enough that you expected to hear of a few. After that, they really invested in safety and hardly anyone dies - and hardly anyone watches.
Not to be pedantic but Earnhardt died at Daytona not Talladega.
Please, be pedantic! I’m ashamed I got that wrong. Serves me right for being on Lemmy instead of sleeping.
Is it that NASCAR got worse, or is it just that there are so many better forms of entertainment available now compared to the past?
I feel like they’re different orders of magnitude. Like it’s one thing to enjoy watching people do risky things, and it’s another to enjoy watching something where at least one person is going gruesomely die in front of you during the event.
Like… During the Bad Times of NASCAR, a few people would get seriously injured or die in a season, and it caused a huge commotion where they introduced new safety measures (eventually).
But cars were smashed and torn apart nearly every race.
It’s be like if in a typical game of football, there was greater than 50/50 odds that someone would get drawn, quartered, and disemboweled on the field during the match.But that’s not really the part I was focused on, that was an afterthought.
The real focus was imagine if people jogged at such speeds that tripping would result in gruesome death. What would society even look like?Well, the whole act of tripping would be entirely different. Cars don’t topple over like we do because they have a wider base. So stumbling on the curb isn’t going to kill you.
I don’t think much would change in day to day life. Cars can go fast, but they can also go quite slow. And cars travelling on the interstate would be going about the top speed of a cheetah, which is not an animal that generally falls over and cracks its skull while running. Plus, having your entire body be the car would definitely help you notice and prevent the hazards that would cause that.
Also if we take deleted scenes into account, there’s a scene where the townspeople of Radiator Springs transplant Lightning McQueen’s consciousness into a steamroller - so clearly their society is advanced enough medically for it not to be a problem, or the cars’ consciousness is a specific part that can be changed out.
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The only major change due to that specific factor I can think of would be people would probably try to commit suicide by running into walls, realistically.
Hmmm… You’re right that cars don’t crash as much as people trip. But they still crash a lot
And while if a cheetah trips while running it’s fine, if a car crashes at its top speed, it will completely come apart. Heck, if a car crashes at highway speed, it’s typically still absolutely destroyed, and highway speed is only gonna be like 1/2 or 1/3 its top speed, so that’s the equivalent of jogging.
A big part of this is the fragility of cars vs their speed.That deleted scene is… It’s… Well that raises so many questions about their universe. I’m just gonna ignore that part lol.
Cars in Cars have also been shown to have complete control over their components, so I think crashes would be much more avoidable.
Other than that, I don’t have much. They would probably take a lot of measures to stop crashes, designing their societies completely differently from us. But they didn’t, because it’s Cars. At the end of the day, if you’re looking for sound world logic from Cars… I have bad news.
But trying to extrapolate from nonsense movies is the fun part!
Let me rephrase, I’m not trying to make the world of cars more realistic, I’m trying to imagine “what if we were as relatively fragile as cars are”. What if our normal every day activities like walking were as risky to us as driving is to a car.
So you’re asking “what if society has superpowers?”
Or specifically just super speed?
Specifically just speed, I suppose.
Not any of the other perception/durability powers that typically come with it.And not crazy flash-like super speed, just the speed of a car.
is this where i do my monthly bringing up of the absolute mayhem cars 2 did to that franchise?
cars is about cars because it’s a potent metaphor about the urban/rural class divide in america. cars 2 is about cars because… the first one was.
which means they didn’t think their messaging through.
which is how you get an entire movie about lemons being shunned for being badly built, but it’s fine because it turs out they’re all part of a giant evil conspiracy to kill the “normal” cars by mass poisoning.
let’s rephrase that: there is an entire class of people that is genetically inferior and predisposed to evil. that’s not subtext, that’s in the film.
as always, the Kill James Bond episode on cars 2 (or at least the highlights) are required reading.
have you actually seen Cars?
Yes, my favorite scene is when the villain grabs them and slams them into a tree to murder them.
Wait… did you say Cars? I thought you said Friday the 13th VII
Wait…is it the 13th? Or the 7th??? WHICH DAY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SIR???
I think he was about to type out a yell to his girlfriend VIIIIIIICTORIA, but was murdered before he could finish it.
It’s been a while, I admit.
But the premise is simple enough that you don’t really need to remember much of it
I’m reminded of Jedi Knight. You could easily die by running into a wall with force speed. It was glorious.
Wait, when did that happen? I played both Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy and neither one had that
I’m speaking of the predecessor. Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight. That’s the second time now someone on Lemmy forgot it existed.
It was awesome. It had sprawling levels seldom seen nowadays. It really let you feel the scale of places. And in contrast to JO and JA the lightsaber would actually properly illuminate an area.
I liked accidently bumping into Lando with my light sabre out and whoopsie daisy have to reload my quick save, Lando’s been cut in two again
I definitely played with those commands turned all the way to 11. There’s something fun about walking to someone just holding your lightsaber, and slicing him open without really doing anything.
Welp it looks like I’m reinstalling Jedi Outcast today, helpmeobi 1
Imagine replacing the whole film with actors and the races being on foot but the crashes etc are killing them, I would so watch that haha
All you need is the remake with LL Cool J /s
That’s what I’m saying!
What would society even look like if even a light jog was such speeds that tripping would result in a gruesome death? Bumping into someone would tear off limbs? In the movie they’re so casual about it.The Flash’s clumsy cousin…it’s Crash!
Yeah i think your idea is amazing i love it
