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A new survey showing that 82 percent of Jewish Israelis support the expulsion of Gazans was met with disbelief among those who stubbornly believe that the extremists are outliers. But these trends are as consistent as they are shocking

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Here’s the part where some numbnuts will stop to explain, “Not all Jews!” Yeah. We get that. But the Jewish state of Israel, which was founded as a safe haven for Jews, is genocidal as fuck. And who makes up 75% of the population of Israel? Could it be… Jews? Where do 50% of the Jews on the planet reside? Could it be Israel?

    And for stating a few unarguable facts, I expect a ban. Maybe I could very sheepishly, on the down-low, suggest that only a radical, very tiny number of Jews are, perhaps, maybe partly, just a bit, guilty of genocide, or at least, are collaborators and supporters?

    FFS, no one has the balls to say out loud, “Not a good look guys.” <-anti-Semitism

    Sincerely:

    GenXer who had always supported Israel and had less than zero beef with Jews.

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      Yeah, I think it’s less being Jewish and more that they are settlers. They are acting just like how Canadians, Australians and Afrikaners acted against the local indigenous population.

      Anything that reminds them that they don’t belong to this land (in their assessment and minds, land does not belong to anyone) they hate that. Mostly the people who were there before them.

      It’s not Jewishness, it’s just Assholeishness.

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      Israel is absolutely being genocidal here, but it has nothing to do with them being Jews. They want the land, full stop. They believe they are more entitled to the land than anyone else, full stop.

      The fact that they are Jewish is really immaterial and hating “the Jews” because of what Israel is doing is a lot like, I dunno, hating white people because of the various White Supremacist groups.

      You have a supremacist government taking genocidal actions, any supremacist government would do the same, it doesn’t matter what the heritage is.

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        And you have a population that largely supports the actions of the government.

        It’s not the government just doing what it pleases, it’s doing what its population wants it to do.

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            I’m not disagreeing with you, but as my ex used to comment (she’s Jewish and went to private Jewish school) their religion is very clear in explaining they are the chosen children of God.

            Off the bat they are indoctrinated that they are better than all of us.

            All I know is my children are less safe in the world because of what the state of Israel is doing and that disgusts me.

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                Oooh not like them. With them it’s clearly defined in the Torah multiple times. G-d Himself tells them they are His children.

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      The vast majority of Israeli Jews and a significant number (not sure if a majority) of diaspora Jews are actively guilty of perpetuating and aiding Israel’s genocide and occupation(s). That’s just facts and won’t get you banned (at least not from Lemmy). However, generalizing that to the significant fraction of Jews who aren’t party to these crimes or are opposing them is antisemitism and will rightly get you banned. There’s nothing complicated about this.

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        Sources ? The biggest foreign community that support the fascists in Israel are evangelist.

        On the other side, their is a lot of Jewish organization that support Palestine

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      So it’s a fascist state, which include a support of it’s population through nationalism. It doesn’t change anything that this nationalism is based on a religion, regional or cultural identity. It’s work the same.

      Speaking about all the population is cutting ourselves from the ally we have in the 15%. We couldn’t say “it’s over, we couldn’t do anything for those left”; we are the 15% in our own imperialist state. And if you think that this is a different situation, there were German resistance during WW2 … and they almost kill hitler.

      Even if you disagree, why speaking about Jewish people and not just Israeli people ? You just insulting every Jews that choose do not live in Israel. A choice you didn’t make.