I wanna listen to a particular song by an artist who has recently turned pretty nazi. As I generally use Spotify I now refuse to listen to his music in there, esp as it generates earnings. I kinda wanna pirate the music somehow…I’m not gonna as I’m not gonna down a song or two and then store it on my phone like it’s the year 2000. But short story is this me justifying piracy to myself.
I would rather own my files on my phone like it’s the year 2000 than my devices becoming useless whenever $streaming_service shuts down or changes policy like it’s the year 1984…
Which Kanye song?
No, they said recently
Haha, fair
Hmm I suppose I should amend. I have had this same dilemma with RKelly then MJ. I just can’t condone some artists.
My wife refuses to let me pirate books for her. She wants to support the authors she reads, which is fair. But she decided she wanted to try the Harry Potter books, and asked me to pirate them for her to make sure JK Rowling didn’t get a penny out of her.
Now that’s a keeper
Yeah. She doesn’t see the value in getting entertainment for free while there are starving children in the world.
She’s only interested in getting brownie points from other consumerists.
Yeah, sure sucks when people go out of their way to bend their personal code of supporting creatives they enjoy to ensure they don’t contribute money to a hateful bigot who actively makes things worse for vulnerable minorities. Yeah, that sure is motivated by external approval of internet strangers.
Honestly, after seeing billionaires buy the US gov and then learning that Spotify is owned by a billionaire and artists are terribly compensated, I have been planning to once again fly the pirate flag. I want to pay the artists, but fuck the current options unless there is a different way idk about.
Bandcamp is decent. If you wait for Bandcamp Fridays, all of your money goes to the artist.
Might be a good idea to pirate and then contact the artists about setting up donation channels.
Publishers are obsolete.
I moved to Qobuz for that reason. Much better payout for the artists.
Don’t forget that they fund the military complex.
Daniel Ek? More like Daniel Ick
Ripping off Jeff Bezos is a moral imperative.
Why so specific…
Deny all parasites profit and engagement as much as possible where ever possible.
Who else owns as much content and causes so much harm?
Disney, Sony, comcast among other media conglomerates
Similarly, I have pirated The Sims 4 multiple times. Not because I plan on playing it any time soon, but rather because stealing from EA Games is always morally correct.
The Sims 4 is the only game my wife plays nowadays. You can bet we didn’t pay the hundreds of dollars it would cost to get all the DLC.
Ripping off most of the big streaming services is a moral imperative. They are all corrupt and evil in one form or another. Except Dropout. If you pirate Dropout content you’re a dirtbag.
Dropping truth bombs here
I periodically delete my Metallica collection so I can re-download it for no other reason than fuck Lars.
I play bass. Metallica cut Newsted’s bass line out of And Justice for All. I’ll hate them for it forever. I love Trujillo now and still have not listened to a single Metallica album since he’s played with them.
metallica are honestly a bunch of babies.
Doing this is not only moral; it’s virtuous.
Yeah I pirate all the games that:
- Require an internet connection
- Use Denuvo
- Require a dedicated launcher
- Require a connected account
If you’re going to make the paid experience significantly worse than the free one because you want to implement anti-consumer BS, go fuck yourself
Also rootkit anti cheat.
Yeh I am not a gamer but have a family of them. As the tech person I’m usually the one dealing with purchases and set up. The evolution of gaming has become a real burden.
Really important “morals” you’ve got there. External launchers? Really? Almost like people just look for excuses to pirate and save money. At least be honest with yourself.
Then don’t give me excuses. Don’t be a scumbag. External launchers only exist to serve ads and DRM, they have no benefit to the consumer. I own hundreds of games, imagine if each one of them required a dedicated launcher!?
I’d make backups of my purchases and share them with love for preservation and promotion of their authors hard work. “Piracy” was already shown to increase sales, not reduce them. If you really want to do something against an artist you no longer align with, dont consume their products. Don’t purchase, don’t download and don’t share their stuff. Just look around for other artists you do align with, get hooked to their art and support them instead.
Absolutely.
Piracy is a tool to fight back against the ruling class and help reduce the disparity in wealth.
That’s why useful idiots have been conditioned to hate it or only use it for ‘privacy’ purposes.
Honestly there’s so much wonderful art out there not created by Nazis, I don’t know that it’s worth the energy to pirate Nazi music.
I totally understand the moral pirate argument, I just don’t have time to enjoy all of the games, movies, and music from artists I support. To waste what time I have engaging with content from people I find morally repugnant is just not where I’m investing
Same goes for sexual abusers too.
Doesn’t matter how good that first Lostprophets album is, I just can’t listen to it knowing what Watkins got up to, so I’ll listen to music by people who didn’t fuck a literal baby.
I totally agree. I just mentioned RKelly and MJ. I have had to stop listening. As time goes by more comes to light and I lose some good tunes.
Use it as an opportunity to find new music and fill those playlists out with a little more variety
piracy is always better than paying a corpo
If it can’t own my media, I’m certainly not going to pay for it.
Corpos think we are stupid and they gonna be able to use the big dick of daddy Sam to force us into compliance…
These idiots don’t understand who the back bone of piracy communities are 🤡
Eh, it’s kinda down to personal perspective. In mine, absolutely a reasonable way to handle things if you love the art, but don’t feel morally comfortable supporting the artist.
I recommend people pirate Enders Game, because fuck Orson Scott Card.
I was a newly out queer teenager when OSC started running his mouth about gay marriage. At the same time I was a big Harry Potter fan.
Fuck Orson Scott Card, but he doesn’t seem quite so bad anymore.
I view it like the “discomforting uncle versus outright hateful aunt”. I still really don’t want to support him, but equally, fuck her, she’s out here on the fucking daily with her shit.
Plus, at this point, telling someone to pirate anything Rowling is like telling someone to breathe. You’re either doing it, or okay with the outcome of your actions.
Basically, don’t invite either of them to queer Thanksgiving.
I wouldn’t invite either to straight Thanksgiving either. Who wants that kind of toxic shit bag hanging around? Fuck those assholes and the hateful garbage they spew.
What about Hogwarts Legacy? I find the game is in an awfully awkward position. I absolutely do not condone Rowling and have divorced her from the franchise as well as almost everything newer than Deathly Hallows from my beloved IP, also hate WB for being corpo scum, but I really liked the groundwork the game laid down so I’d like to see Avalanche Software get a chance to make another game that fixes what the first got wrong while building on what it got right.
Without demolishing copyright laws, we have to give money to WB and some unknown percentage to the witch to get the game we want and I, personally, think we HP fans deserve a genuinely good Hogwarts simulator along the lines of HL meets Bully. Sadly, I can’t designate my money to only go to Avalanche.
So in short, can we kill Rowling, WB execs and still get a Hogwarts 2 Electric Boogaloo? Because I like that option. Short of it, pick your annoyingly screwed moral box 😒
What about Hogwarts Legacy? Fuck copyright laws, pirate it. Just like with any other big-name game, lots of people will be buying it. Nobody will notice or care that you pirated.
we HP fans deserve a genuinely good Hogwarts simulator along the lines of HL meets Bully
If only Rockstar would make Bully: The Dark Ages.
Well yeah, I don’t respect copyright law at all, but with HL, I genuinely liked the product and only bought after reviews and because I wanted it to be seen as a success so a sequel could get greenlit. I voted with my wallet for the product I want to see more of but I find it it a complicated stance when rubbing up against art vs artist.
You don’t have to justify it, really, but it does feel satisfying when you do.
Which song of his out of curiosity? Just use Soulseek. (nicotine+ on desktop or Seeker on Android)
Thanks for the response. I’ll take a look
Spotify has fraudulent practices, so morality forces me not to give him income. All my music comes from Soulseek.
Here’s a link for you to get an idea of what I’m talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_over_fake_artists_on_Spotify
What other option is there, other than Spotify? I doubt much that buying all the albums I hear is an option, as I hear a lot of music.
