Hopefully this kind of post isn’t too tired, but I figure it’s my turn:

Finally decided to, after absolutely refusing to upgrade to 11, make the jump from Win10 to Linux! Been hopping around distros a bit and landed on EndeavourOS last night and I’m really enjoying it so far.

It’s definitely tinkery and took me like 2 hours just to get my push to talk working in Discord (mostly due to my own lack of knowledge), but I love the level of control of everything you have (was on Pop!_OS before 🤮, edit: no hate, just wasn’t for me!)

There’s definitely never been a better time to switch and I’m very excited for when I inevitably brick my shit and come back here for help, so thanks in advance everyone! :)

  • NoisyFlake@lemm.ee
    243·
    2 days ago

    EndeavourOS is the real Arch, with some additional repos and some sensible defaults.

    • superkret@feddit.org
      826·
      2 days ago

      What makes an Arch system an Arch system is the repos, the package manager and the fact that you installed it yourself.
      Anyone giving you support will expect you to be able to answer a couple of questions about your system based on the fact you yourself configured it.
      With EndeavourOS, even if you have the exact same repos, it still wouldn’t be an Arch system.
      And now get off my lawn!

      • Vopyr@lemmy.world
        13·
        1 day ago

        Archinstall: Exists Someone: ArCh iS WhEN yOu iNStaLl It yOUrsELf.

        In other words, this statement is bullshit.

        • superkret@feddit.org
          315·
          2 days ago

          There is no irony.
          Gatekeeping Linux distros has been a time-honored tradition since 1993.

          • trevor (he/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            17·
            1 day ago

            Fuck that. The Linux gate is wide open! Anyone that wants to use Linux, come on in!

            And for your own sake: use anything but Ubuntu and their buggy Snaps.

      • k4j8@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 day ago

        I mostly agree with this. If you’re asking for help on an Arch forum, I think it’s fair to expect you know how your system is installed and configured. However, we know many use EndeavourOS (or Archinstall) to avoid having to configure their system. Forums provide free support; I think it’s fair they get a say in what issues they don’t want to deal with.

    • Nilz@sopuli.xyz
      78·
      2 days ago

      Try saying that on the Arch forums and see what they think about that statement.

        • LeFantome@programming.dev
          52·
          1 day ago

          Arch users do not consider EOS as Arch but it absolutely is.

          EndeavourOS uses the vanilla Arch kernels, the vanilla Arch repos, and the AUR. There are only a handful of packages in the EOS repos and the majority of them are theming or utils that are what you would use on Arch as well (like yay and paru). There are a few quality of life utils that are totally optional and most EOS users are probably not even aware of. Plus, I suppose, the EOS keyring and a couple of packages so that the distro identifies as EOS instead of Arch. Distro identification is the only thing that “overrrides” anything in the Arch repos.

          I describe EOS as an opinionated Arch installer with sensible defaults. Once installed, it is just Arch.

          It is trivial to revert EOS to vanilla Arch if you want to. I don’t think it even requires a reboot.

        • Nilz@sopuli.xyz
          41·
          1 day ago

          These boards are for the support of Arch Linux, and Arch ONLY. If you have installed Archbang, Artix, Chakra, EndeavourOS, Evo/Lution, Manjaro, Whatever, you are NOT running Arch Linux. Source

          • blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk
            1·
            4 hours ago

            Sounds like something written at the likes of Manjaro which differ enough from plain Arch for it to be problematic.

            To be honest, with EOS the point is moot - they have their own excellent forums and if you do insist on going to the Arch forums, just say you’re using Arch.

      • Vopyr@lemmy.world
        51·
        1 day ago

        Whatever. Why should anyone even go to their forum and ask their opinion on EndeavourOS (or other Arch-based distros) when their community is known for its toxicity?

        • StefanT@lemmy.world
          1·
          18 hours ago

          Ever tried asking in Ubuntu forums for help for Mint, Pop or any other derived distribution?

          It might be toxic but I understand if people that donate their free time to help others get tired of being asked for help for problems that were caused by the offspring distribution. I did not follow it nowadays but back in the days this was the same with Manjaro which caused issues every now and then by holding back some upgrades.

        • Nilz@sopuli.xyz
          21·
          1 day ago

          It’s not about opinion, it’s about the fact you can’t go to the Arch forums in case you are running into issues while running Endeavour. Whether that’s an issue or not is up to the user.