• LuckyPierre@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    Elsewhere on Lemmy today;

    Germany warns Russia may be preparing attack on NATO

    Both of these cannot be true.

    • TThor@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      They can be true. They might be low on current stockpile, but what is building up is production capacity. Preparing to attack doesn’t mean immediately attacking, what most have concern is that once Russia’s war against Ukraine cools down, Russia will spend the next 4-10 years building up towards potentially attacking NATO nations.

      Yes, years down the line doesn’t sound as alarming to the layman, but it is critical for that eventuality to be recognized and prepared for, nations and industry move slowly, and they need to prepare to fight another long drawn out war.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      The idea is that after some kind of cease fire, russia will churn out stuff for 3-4-5 years (so mebbe 1.000 tanks?) and then not go full frontal against NATO but say take a bite out of Lithuania, just to see what the response will be.

      Like they have been doing since forever (Chechnya, Moldavia, Georgia, Ukraine and so on).

    • wtckt@lemm.ee
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      4 days ago

      Taking over a Baltic state is feasible. NATO might react by sending helmets and prayers.

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        4 days ago

        Artikel 42 EU treaty. All members of the EU have to fight with their full capacity. This will escalate quickly.

        There are already EU troops in the Baltics, just to remind the Russans of it.

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            3 days ago

            “obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power”. Which is far above what being in NATO requires states to do. Which just btw also covers Greenland. Only ones off the hook are Ireland and Austria due to being neutral, the treaty still covers them though.

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              3 days ago

              If a state decides that what’s in their power is sending 5000 helmets, then nobody will be able to force them to do more. Misinformed internet people think Article 42 is an automatic collective war switch, it is most certainly not and doubly so in the case of Greenland, lmao.

    • Triasha@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      They absolutely can.

      Russia has thousands of men willing to fight in horrendous conditions.

      A few thousand soldiers that are very well equipped might lose to 10x as many badly equipped enemies.

      I think they would lose, but they might not think so.