You have to be careful on the 80 series. They are either 7th gen Intel or 8th gen Intel. My sister has an i5-7200u t580. Also 8th gen is weird, I’ve been having issues with my pavilion trying to get it to run at base clock. I had to uninstall Intel thermald and run “throttled”, a GitHub script to run at base clock.

Also it’s the last generation of T series that has dual batteries, and a few gens later, they move to soldered ram.

E and L series ThinkPads tend to have upgradable ram. The build isn’t as good but the upgradability is something to keep in mind.

As for the specs and the lack of mentioning them, I agree.

Why would I talk about US prices/currency for a danish tech site?

If someone is looking for tech in Europe, it doesn’t make sense for me to use a US reference.

But wouldn’t mint have the same issues as Debian 12?

I checked LinuxPusher and I wouldn’t say they’re affordable. Their laptops are 2-3x the price of the same laptop running no OS on sites like eBay.de. For example, their cheapest T470 is 3000 krone, while the equivalent laptop on ebay is like 150 euro or 1120 krone.

I looked at a Thinkpad L14 G1, an elitebook 840 G5, and the dell 3060 Micro and it’s the same. Consistently 2x and higher markup.

Is that markup worth a 2 year warranty?

You could literally buy a second device if the first one kicks the bucket and still be out ahead monetarily.

If you want to slowly start using linux and already have a pc, make a portable install on any flash drive (I like external ssds for this exact reason) you want, and boot it. (ideally set the RealTimeIsUniversal registry entry in windows so Linux and windows don’t fuck up the bios time).

But would it fix the core issues that OP is having?

Tires? General handling? Crash safety for others?

Mine had issues with integrated graphics where the driver would crash constantly.

I’m assuming stock ax210 wifi card as well.

I had a lot of stability issues on 11th gen Intel but I was using windows. (I have switched to an amd motherboard on my laptop (no it’s not a framework))

I’d love to know what hardware you are using as well.

I don’t think it’s exactly the same. If I used MT to label data for AI/ML, that would be one thing. If I used MT to complete tasks and calling their effort AI, that would be fraud.

Not even like video calls. People can take screenshots. That’s happened to me in the past. (I was an adult when it occured but my point still stands)