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But then I’d ask how do you outlaw human systematic consumption of information. The camera on my car cant watch 24/7, then why should YOU be allowed to watch 24/7? What you’re outlawing is the literal methodology.

This has always been an issue with my thoughts on AI. If the computer became sentient does the LLM learning rule go out the window? or is it because they are made of metal?

I feel like they need a test case to figure out how to define derivative work when the creator is not human.

If i make a painting and you see it and then make one in a similar style it would be considered derivative and not a violation. In your head is a distillation of my image. It doesn’t contain the image and your output would be lossy. Similarly the LLM contains statistics and not verbatim content. So the question is “how is human synthesis different than AI synthesis.”

Until that is resolved a class action would probably fall apart. Individual damages would need to be determined and even a single example of “you put your stuff out to the public and aren’t going aftet Joe who made derivative work…” would derail the case.

You would think that but we did have a few tens of millions of people vote for someone who said he was going to fuck up the economy and now these people are all asking what the hell happened.

Maybe we should stop assuming and start calling a spade a spade.

Your examples listed above are skipping the part they are taking issue with, “becoming a billionaire.” The problem isn’t that it’s emotive language, its that you don’t care to focus on the portion they want to focus on.

To become a billionaire you make the vast majority of your money off the backs of other people. Some do it via markets, investment, buying and selling companies and all other things “capitalism.” There are others that do it through actual slavery and other extremely abusive methods. But no billionaires do the work themselves to make this money. And all billionaires could give more back to those doing the actual work, relishing themselves mere millionaires and still never have to worry about money.

Maybe we should be acknowledging when a billionaire does a good thing but not ignore the fact that they are just giving away other’s hard work. Maybe the only real good act a billionaire can do is not be a billionaire.

The idea would be that the Gov renegotiates the loan, pays off some portion of the interest to make sure that all of us have money in savings expecting return to get it, and then the home owners would get a more reasonable rate. The government would also have to tell all the bank shareholders to take a long walk off a short pier. Oh and jail the C-level

The problem though was that many of the people taking on those horrible rates were people or properties that were bad investments. And the government never really cares enough to punish white collar crimes even they are industry wide like this. Look at Wells Fargo. They full on committed fraud, signing people up for accounts without their knowledge and no one went to jail. If you or I did that for one individual its a felony. But if you’re the bank itself its no big deal. WF should have been broken up and sold off and a bunch of people should be living in a cell.

Then again you have female Republican voters and minority Republican voters, and farmer Republican voters… all who voted for their own destruction so I guess I shouldn’t be too astonished.

It’s the same as good ol’ Mitch. He can hate others and not in one specific case. Being racist doesnt mean you have to be all the time.

What I don’t get is how she could marry him. Who signs up or stays with someone who promotes hate for every aspect of yourself?