I mean, even if we’re to take it from a moral standpoint (i.e. it’s immoral to charge for services of undetermined veracity), we can’t be surprised that some people are grifters when the whole system of value within which we currently have to function is a grift.
Edit: I’d even argue that those of us who refuse to grift are shooting ourselves in the foot from the start in this context.
Interesting take! I fully agree that the whole system is an endless grift. Yes, you have to grift if you not only want to survive but be able to do literally anything else, including arguing against it. Being able to enjoy education, have a full belly, not work to the bone every day requires you to grift (to a very minor degree compared to what normies call grifters).
But of course this still doesnt mean you should not do your absolute best to spare as many people as you can while also arguing for system change as much as you can. And it of course also touches on the cognitive fallacy of asking someone for being pristine to ask for literally anything. This of course is just another trick to keep things the way they are.
Agreed! I’m by no means endorsing the grift, I’m just (as) objectively (as I can) observing the rules of the game. Or, rather yet, how the game implicitly expects us to min-max.
And, yes, a rational system would encourage the development of standards and principles, it would try to function based on mutual respect and empathy. And this would be beyond even moral considerations, to bring it full circle, as our survival has been and always will be collective - no one human being can survive completely on their own forever, and especially not when we’re rocking 8+ billion members and we’ve become so interconnected.
Incidentally, it’s why I don’t understand the anti-globalists. Like, what are you expecting to do, maintain your contemporary standard of living by doing it all yourself? Which’ll be first, figuring out broadband internet, or how to build an alarm clock from scratch?
Absolutely. People who have not been subjected to system critical education yet often have no idea what actually goes on in the world. Its sad.
I mean, even if we’re to take it from a moral standpoint (i.e. it’s immoral to charge for services of undetermined veracity), we can’t be surprised that some people are grifters when the whole system of value within which we currently have to function is a grift.
Edit: I’d even argue that those of us who refuse to grift are shooting ourselves in the foot from the start in this context.
Interesting take! I fully agree that the whole system is an endless grift. Yes, you have to grift if you not only want to survive but be able to do literally anything else, including arguing against it. Being able to enjoy education, have a full belly, not work to the bone every day requires you to grift (to a very minor degree compared to what normies call grifters).
But of course this still doesnt mean you should not do your absolute best to spare as many people as you can while also arguing for system change as much as you can. And it of course also touches on the cognitive fallacy of asking someone for being pristine to ask for literally anything. This of course is just another trick to keep things the way they are.
Agreed! I’m by no means endorsing the grift, I’m just (as) objectively (as I can) observing the rules of the game. Or, rather yet, how the game implicitly expects us to min-max.
And, yes, a rational system would encourage the development of standards and principles, it would try to function based on mutual respect and empathy. And this would be beyond even moral considerations, to bring it full circle, as our survival has been and always will be collective - no one human being can survive completely on their own forever, and especially not when we’re rocking 8+ billion members and we’ve become so interconnected.
Incidentally, it’s why I don’t understand the anti-globalists. Like, what are you expecting to do, maintain your contemporary standard of living by doing it all yourself? Which’ll be first, figuring out broadband internet, or how to build an alarm clock from scratch?