cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/114611927184686873

Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)

https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
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>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.

>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…

#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe

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      She’s done more than you ever will, so she’s got that going for her.

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      Threatening her life is very different than criticizing her ideals and unacceptable no matter how annoying you believe she is. Also, her credentials are growing by the day despite your personal opinions.

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          No one should ever do anything to help anyone unless they PASS A BILL (even writing a bill is not good enough)based on the help they give.

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            The person I replied to spoke of her “growing credentials”. Im askng what she has achieved because last I checked she hasn’t actually achieved anything other than getting some fame.

            What’s weirder is that all the people defending her cannot provide anything at all in response other than insults.

            Do YOU have any examples to offer of something she actually achieved?

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              You could check the Wikipedia entry for her, there’s a few accomplishments in there. in any case, I’d say attempting to bring food to starving people under death threats and attempts for doing so makes any of her attempts at doing something, whether the goal is accomplished, far better than whatever you’ve got going on.

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                I appreciate the help, but this person’s intent was never to actually learn about her.

                I don’t know for sure what the point was. Just more pessimist hand waiving I guess. Maybe underachievement guilt, maybe jealousy, maybe just plain old fashioned misogyny.

                Hyperbole was enough for this transaction.

                Edit: I also wanted to add that I did not insult my friend above. We just don’t agree. I thought some fun over exaggeration would point out the unproductive nature of that line of thinking.

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                  I’m just poking the bear, they’re clearly either a Russian/neocon bot, or just an idiot. But I’m seeing if they’ll actually say something besides “asking questions”. I’m curious how far the goal posts are going to be moved without any actual acknowledgement since apparently 30 honors and awards, 17 speeches to governments, 7 publications, and more that I’m not really willing to trudge through to specifically call out, don’t count as accomplishments in their mind.

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                    Is everyone here this fucking conspiratorial and this much of a follower? Im asking this because despite everyone claiming she is important Im not seeing anything to base that on other than social media fame. The only example of anything was yours and it is weak at best.

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                  I appreciate the help, but this person’s intent was never to actually learn about her.

                  I am the guy you are speaking of. I in fact do want to know about her. All these people who keep insulting me cannot provide any examples except for 1 person so far. I can’t see why she gets praised when she hasn.’t gotten any clear results. .

                  You are not psychic and you are terrible at determining what Im thinking.

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                I did that’s why Im asking because she does not appear to be successful. Im hoping peopl can provide examples of things she has done rather than appearances she has made.

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                  The point of activism is to get more people to talk about issues and to bring about change. There’s billions of us. A single person will never be credited with changing the public opinion on anything, that’s not how things work. It’s unfair to ask what she has accomplished because she’s not in a line of work where results are immediate and obvious. And she’s only 22. Millions of people are talking about climate change and other issues thanks to her. Can you name a more (positive)influential person?

                  Yes, she’s successful. How many activists can you name over the top of your head? I’m sure the list is short. And most of them don’t get as many headlines written nor do they gather the same amount of people.

                  Do you want someone to go around the world and ask each person who inspired them to be better humans? Do you want to ask politicians why they pass each bill and which protest forced them to finally take action? Or how do you propose we quantify her success if not by number of followers and articles written?

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                    Should we use successes as a measure of effectiveness or renown? You are suggesting renown right now.

                    The fact is celebrities aren’t going to fix this problem good old fashioned organizing is and she isn’t doing that. Other people are organizing and she is contributing celebrity.

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                  Ok, how about we turn this around since you have very high standards for what you consider an accomplishment. What have you succeeded at?

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                    I was active in LGBT marriage in the states of MA, NJ and the nation as a whole. Right now we have LGBT+ marriage rights so I would suggest the leaders of these movements were successful.

                    I was active in removing CSAM and problematic porn subreddits from reddit. I left reddit because they refused to killa subreddit literally listing CSAM for sale so I don’t see this as being successful.

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            She also lost like 90% of public and media attention over speaking out against Israel. And she is putting her own life at great risk at this very moment.

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          She sparked Fridays For Future, the last German government got elected largely in the wake of their protests (among others) and achieved huge steps forward in transitioning our energy supply to renewables.

          We are sadly now back to conservatives, but they won’t be able to reverse all that was achieved.

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              Even without tangible achievements, boosting the climate movement on a global level like she did is not nothing.

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                Except she didn’t really do that. We already knew about climate change and we have not dine anything more about it as a result of her work.

                Would you praise a player that misses every single shot they take? At some point do results matter?

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                  I don’t know what to tell you man. The presence of the issue and the protests about it were far larger after her initial school strikes than before. Globally. And if you think that’s nothing, pray tell me what you have done that has had any global impact whatsoever.

                  And yes, I would praise a player that enabled their team (through motivation or else) to score 5 additional goals in a losing game, even if it meant they only lost 10:5 instead of 10:0.

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          The answer is, she’s a serial protester and very successful at getting arrested.

          There are innumerable people who are actually achieving things but no one cares.

          For example, medicines sans frontiers has medical professionals in Gaza. I haven’t seen any posts about them on lemmy. Those people have been being heroes every day for many months.

          I don wonder what her actual role is on the boat. I suspect she’s head person in charge of raising awareness.

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            And that’s kind of my point. She’s great at getting attention for her but isn’t getting things done. She’s a celebrity-activist

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              In some ways I think the “attention” is counter productive.

              Everyone is aware of the debate around climate change or gaza. Getting views from lemmy users on YouTube videos doesn’t help anything.

              Greta is incapable of reaching the people who need to be reached. A fresh faced gen z can’t guilt boomers into changing their behaviour.

              I don’t dislike Greta specifically, but the obsession with her every utterance is ridiculous.

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              Thunberg’s climate activism began when she persuaded her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced her family’s carbon footprint.

              She protested outside the Swedish parliament where she called for stronger action on climate change by holding up a Skolstrejk för klimatet (School Strike for Climate) sign and handing out informational flyers.[3] After the election, Thunberg spoke in front of supporters, telling them to use phones to film her. She then said she would continue school striking for the climate every Friday until Sweden was in compliance with the Paris climate agreement.

              Sweden signed the agreement and is on track with the Paris climate agreement from what I can tell.

              After Thunberg addressed the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference, weekly climate strike protests took place on Fridays around the world. In 2019, coordinated multi-city protests involved over a million students each.

              Thunberg’s rise to world fame made her an ad hoc leader in the climate activist community.

              Thunberg’s influence on the world stage has been described by The Guardian and other media as the “Greta effect”

              She has received honours and awards, including in Time’s 100 most influential people, named the youngest Time Person of the Year in 2019, inclusion in the Forbes list of The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women (2019),[19] and nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize.

              Thunberg won a climate change essay competition held by Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet. In part, she wrote: “I want to feel safe. How can I feel safe when I know we are in the greatest crisis in human history?”

              In December, after Sweden’s 2018 general election, Thunberg continued to school strike – but only on Fridays. She inspired school students across the globe to take part in her Friday school strikes. In December alone, more than 20,000 students held strikes in at least 270 cities.

              Thunberg’s speech during the plenary session of the 2018 United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP24) went viral.[67] She said that the world leaders present were “not mature enough to tell it like it is”.[68] In the first half of 2019, she joined various student protests around Europe, and was invited to speak at various forums and parliaments. At the January 2019 World Economic Forum, Thunberg gave a speech in which she declared: “Our house is on fire.”[69] She addressed the British, European and French parliaments; in the latter case several right-wing politicians boycotted her.[70][71] In a short meeting with Thunberg, Pope Francis thanked her and encouraged her to continue her activism.

              While in New York, Thunberg was invited to give testimony in the US House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis on 18 September. Instead of testifying, she gave an eight-sentence statement and submitted the IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5 °C as evidence.

              …made an official complaint against five nations that were not on track to meet the emission reduction targets they committed to in their Paris Agreement pledges: Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany, and Turkey.[83][84] The complaint challenged these countries under the Third Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

              In late September 2019, Thunberg entered Canada where she participated in climate protests in Montreal, Edmonton and Vancouver, including leading a climate rally as part of the 27 September 2019 Global Climate Strike in Montreal.

              Thunberg participated in climate protests in New York City with Alexandria Villaseñor and Xiye Bastida; in Washington, D.C., with Jerome Foster II; Iowa City; Los Angeles; Charlotte; Denver with Haven Coleman; and the Standing Rock Indian Reservation with Tokata Iron Eyes.

              Thunberg arrived in the Port of Lisbon on 3 December 2019,[96][97] then travelled on to Madrid to speak at COP25 and to participate with the local Fridays for Future climate strikers.

              On 30 December 2019, Thunberg was guest editor of the BBC Radio’s flagship current affairs programme…

              On 21 January 2020, Thunberg returned to the World Economic Forum held in Davos, Switzerland, delivered two speeches, and participated in panel discussions hosted by The New York Times and the World Economic Forum. Thunberg used many of the themes contained in her previous speeches, but focused on one in particular: “Our house is still on fire.” Thunberg joked that she cannot complain about not being heard, saying: “I am being heard all the time.”

              I’m not even halfway through the wikipedia article.

              Before you jump in and say “well, she hasn’t actually done anything” let me ask you; What did Martin Luther King Jr. actually do?

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                He organized a movement of millions that got results. This lack of organizing is why we haven’t seen the successes of the civil rights movement on most issues other than LGBT marriage.

                Its sad that people are so into performative actions that they forget about results,

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                  Greta is organizing more people than MLK did. The lack of results is not her fault, but the fault of the people whom we have elected to implement policy for us (for the most part).

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                    Really, what is the name of her organization? Why haven’t they been able to organize millions like MLK did in a way that is effective and actually something that happened?

                    You can be a fanchild of her if you want but claiming she organized more people than MLK is simply not factually accurate.

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          Wow… I didn’t realize that got posted.

          I wrote it out (mostly - I didn’t finish it), but then thought better of it, but I didn’t immediately delete it. Then later when I opened my screen, there it was, still. And I actuslly thought “Lucky I didn’t butt-post that.”

          Apparently not.

          Ah well…

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        She points out that things are preventably bad while also being a normal-looking young woman. How dare she.

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      Allow me to translate.

      I form my worldview on vibes alone and am incapable of thinking for myself. My perception of people is entirely filtered through memes and sensationalist media.