i love the idea of creating conlangs. i’ve experimented with the idea of them in years past but have never done anything with them, let alone created one.

i did create some toki pona-based ones as they consist of few words (~100) but i want to create ones that aren’t just based off toki pona.

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      Esperanto ne estas perfekta, sed ĝi estas la plu populara planlingvo en tuta la mondo, kaj ĝi estas sufiĉe bona.

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      Esparanto is such a garbage language. Instead of developing an easy to speak and efficient language, the creators wasted the opportunity and made Spanish 2.

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        How exactly is Esperanto “Spanish 2”? I’m genuinely not sure how you could come to that conclusion

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            I’ve been speaking Esperanto for three years so yes. Esperanza, or a word like it, also happens to be the word for hope in most Romance languages (one of the language families that Dr. L.L. Zamenhof was pulling from so that the vocabulary would be familiar to large groups of people).

            If you’re gonna come here and say Esperanto sucks because it’s too similar to Spanish then give me examples of say, grammar that Zamenhof took from Spanish that doesn’t appear in other Romance languages.

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              The point of a new universal language is to be extremely easy to learn, short and efficient. Esparanto is very clear in ripping off Spanish. Everything is long winded, inefficient ends with with an A.

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                I will admit that Esperanto is long-winded at times but I can’t take you seriously when the only example of copying Spanish that you put forward is a word that is shared across languages. I’m willing to bet that you don’t even know what the ‘a’ suffix means in Esperanto seeing as you think every word ends with it.

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                  The word to be in Esparanto is “estas”

                  The you form of “to be” in Spanish is “estas”.

                  You can paste any Esparanto sentence and it will 100% sound Spanish to someone who does not know Esparanto.

                  Do you know any Spanish?

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    https://minilanguage.com/ is an interesting one to look at. There are exactly 1000 words in the total vocabulary. That’s Mini Mundo though. A second, smaller variant also exists: Mini Kore, with 100 words.

    I started learning it too soon after learning Toki Pona and lost steam. But I agree with the design principles. They stem from the observation that Toki Pona, as fun as it is, is just too damn ambiguous for anything non-superficial. All too often speakers need to clarify what they said by switching to a natural language. Even my own Toki notes become indecipherable after a few days.

    Toki Pona: fun, therapeutic mental exercise, made even better with sitelen pona. Feels like writing poetry. Never meant to be a useful language. Easy to learn, hard to use.

    Mini: useful as a language for general purpose communication. Small, primarily latinate vocabulary. Harder to learn, easier to use.

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    I think Globasa is one of the best attempts at creating an international language without bias toward any natural language family (looking at you Esperanto).

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      If I were to learn another besides toki pona, I’d def go with this one. The way globasa adds words makes it much more international than nearly every other conlang.