• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    Holy crap.

    I see the headline and I’m thinking… well, all countries would vote for that, except for the US, Israel, because of course, and well, Ukraine probably wouldn’t want to vote because yes or no will anger allies.

    And that seems to be exact the vote

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    10 hours ago

    I’m not sure why they bother with the vote. Everyone else trades and vacations in Cuba. U.S. doesn’t. Life goes on.

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      4 hours ago

      The issue is that the USD is the main trade currency in the world, and all transactions in USD need to be cleared by banks in the US. Since Cuba is banned from trading in USD, they need to trade directly in their import/export partners home currency, which exposes them to additional currency fluctuations, and complicates the whole settlement process.

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      7 hours ago

      The split up of votes is crazy accurate. 2 shithole countries doing vile things want to keep oppressing another, Ukraine is too busy with their own shit, and everyone else is just trying to keep the peace status quo.

      edit: status quo is more appropriate than peace, probably

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        10 hours ago

        I think there may be more to Ukraine’s abstention than being “too busy with their own shit,” probably they don’t want to annoy the US govt and risk having military aid further reduced.

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          10 hours ago

          Likely true. On a surface level I just find it interesting how this split up can be used as a summary of the state of the world powers.

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    9 hours ago

    The sanctions stay basically only because of Florida having been a battleground state and Cuban immigrants being a significant voting bloc

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      10 hours ago

      UN isn’t a world government.

      Someone is gonna have to enforce it.

      Who is willing to send a navy? Anyone? Yea that’s what really matters. UN votes are just performative.

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        Would it really take a navy?

        If all these countries started sending joint floatillas to Cuba loaded with supplies, what would the US actually do? Blow them up? Seize them and arrest the crew?

        I kinda doubt it. Maybe if Mexico did it by themselves or something they’d try, but all its allies at the same time? Would the US destroy itself just to enforce this embargo?

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          2 hours ago

          Not under some other administration. But this administration I’m not so sure.

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          6 hours ago

          Would the US destroy itself just to enforce this embargo?

          I’m not sure why you find that unlikely at this point…?

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            If we compare it to the trade war with China, the US only kept it up for a few weeks and backed down. There are material realities that force the US to bend, it actually can’t just do whatever it wants. So, if there was an international flotilla sent to Cuba to deliver much needed supplies, the US would retaliate at first and then back down when it realized the entire world was against it.

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    11 hours ago

    And this will have the same effect that it has had for the last 30 years - that is to say, none at all.

  • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 hours ago

    Votes are going to do nothing (as obvious for decades). Sanction US for its warcrimes and funding of genocide, if you really give a damn.

    Quit virtue signalling against fascist states.