• krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org
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    4 hours ago

    I’m trying to understand where you are coming from. In the general elections, I voted for Harris and Clinton after voting against them in primaries. The thing about voting and elections is that there are hundreds of variables involved, and focusing on one to pin blame on a sliver of the electorate doesn’t seem like thoughtful analysis or productive to an oppositional cause.

    You can point to turnouts and results from specific counties until your finger dries up and falls off, but that only highlights a neglect regarding myriad other factors that contribute to results. My opinion is that the Harris campaign ran the race the way they thought best and they lost. They lost. Sure, in sense we all lost, but they were the ones driving the bus.

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      4 hours ago

      We aren’t children without agency, they aren’t singers on American idol.

      They had policy manifestos, they were explicit about them.

      And the voices screaming to ignore everything else and focus only on Palestine as the only variable that mattered, in unison, with almost perfect resonance with Russian troll farms (curious given Russia’s close ties with both Iran and hamas in the lead up to october 7, and their use of Gaza to distract the west from support for Ukraine).

      We’re being played like puppets, and nobody is willing to admit there are malicious actors at work who benefit.

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        Or… It could be that people have lost faith in the Democratic party. Look at their current approval rating. Look at Biden’s terrible presidency. Look at Biden and Harris’ terible campaigns. Look at the issues and policies that they ran on. All of that pushed people away from them based on the polling.

        It’s easy to blame foreign influence, but it’s more productive to figure out why the supposedly left party ran to the right, and alienated their voting base. Did the Russian try to influence the election? Of course, I’d be surprised if they didn’t. But from what I saw, the Demcrats did more damage to themselves than the Russians could have hoped for.