Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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    supplement your diet with B12. That’s the only nutrient that can’t be found naturally in plant-based sources

    that’s not true

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      Yes it is. Everything except B12 can either be found in some plant-based foods, or produced by your body. B12 is the only supplement you need.

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          Yeah, I guess I’m not entirely accurate, because you can get some tiny amount of B12 from plant-based sources (e.g. nori). But it’s probably not enough, so vegans should supplement it. The rest is probably fine unless you’re blasting junk food every day.

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            I’m more concerned that you’re asserting everything else is in plant based foods. it’s not and you should stop lying to people before they hurt themselves.

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              I’m asserting it because it’s true. I’m vegan for over 7 years now, the only supplements I take is B12 (and occasionally D), I’m in good health. I’m friends with a vegan of 20 years, the only supplements she takes is B12 and iron, and she’s in good health. The science backs it up as well, plants contain almost everything we need to exist.

              In order to be healthy, you have to make sure your diet is varied and contains the sources for all necessary nutrients, but then it’s exactly the same for omnivores.

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                the opposite of anecdote is data. you are not a dietician. you should stop giving medical advice

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                  Ok, name me a nutrient and I’ll give you either a plant-based source of it or evidence that your body or gut biome produces it itself

                  And yeah, I agree, if you want to have a healthy diet you need to read up on dietology and/or visit a dietologist. But this has nothing to do with veganism, omnivores need to do it too.

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                    Retinol, DHA/EPA, heme iron, creatine, carsonine, and carnitine all must be synthesized, and the precursors are not nearly as bioavailable animal based sources of the real deal

                    of course this conversation started with a statement that every nutrient is available from plant sources, which you’ve already moved the goal posts on. you’re not here in good faith, you’re here to be right.

                    and even “plant based” b12 from spirulina is biologically inactive in humans.