Several prominent Chinese figures, including top Harvard mathematician Liu Jun, award-winning computer scientist and blockchain expert Chen Jing and rising AI star Fu Tianfan, have since left the US and returned to China to take up roles in prestigious institutions in cities like Beijing, Nanjing and Shenzhen.
Maybe the fact that the US is a fascist, racist shithole of a country that’s killing its own economy?
This is not reverse brain drain. This is just brain drain.
What the fuck is this headline. Say the cause already. Jesus Christ people, you can’t hide death camps from international audiences.
Alex, what is, “Maybe they don’t want to get zip-tied half-naked, dehydrated, and then deported to a random country?”
Lmao imagine thinking that China doesn’t just disappear people they don’t like. China did what ICE is trying to do 30 years ago, America is still playing catch up.
Let’s see… choice is: “stay here, be the victim of overt racism and live life with the threat that at any moment masked men may swoop in and carry off you or your family, or be regaled as a hero and given a prestigious position at a university at the front edge of your field, with as much stability as you could ever want….
It’s funny to me that they rather risk random censorship than, idk, humiliatingly detained with a chance of dying. At least CCP is bad in a consistent way, Trump is just bad in a very random way.
Also, China acknowledges things like climate change, while now any mention of climate change will get your funding cut in the US.
Not only acknowledges, but actively trying to cut down emissions. They’re a growing country(that is still growing because china is crazy huge) and factory of the world, per capita of emission is significantly lower than US. American should be ashamed for letting this happen despite being a developed country, and now its actively screwing over the humanity’s future.
China learned a lesson from events 10-30 years ago, toxic smog rolling into cities and all that …
It would have been good if the whole world had learned the same thing from their experience, but here we are.
Lawful Evil is at least predictable, contrary to Chaotic Evil.
Well this is just me thinking out loud but maybe it’s the fascism
You can’t even post about Winnie the Pooh in China. Just because America has gotten worse does not mean China has become good.
True, but just because China hasn’t become good doesn’t mean that it’s not now a better place to live for someone who looks even vaguely Chinese and is thus at high risk of becoming a victim of ICE
Many human rights organizations have criticized China’s treatment of minority cultures and ethnicities. Uighurs being the most well known.
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Because it’s OK to ban Nazism, and punish people who spread Nazism because Nazism is against our values.
But somehow it’s not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.We need to get over the special pleading for religion. Religious extremism is just as harmful, probably even more than any other type of extreme ideology.
There’s a reason MAGA is called a cult, and that’s because they are in denial of reality, and blindly believe harmful dogma. Just like extreme religion.In principle the acts of MAGA are also illegal in many ways in USA, but the law was never really upheld against them, and especially their leader. Once upon a time, treason of that kind would be illegal.
And in much the same way, religious cults value their own rules more than the rules that are decided by society.Freedom of religion is considered a human right, but freedom FROM religion should be an at least equal right, especially for children.
Nazism had roots in extreme religion to persecute the Jews to the point of outright exterminate them, and now MAGA too has roots in extreme religion, and has many of the bad signs Nazism had in Germany.
I can understand why China doesn’t want that shit.But somehow it’s not OK to ban extreme religion for the exact same reasons.
Like Israel is doing in Gaza?
Obviously not, since Israel is doing the exact same the Nazis were, which is an actual genocide.
I have not heard that China is killing off Uighur’s.But Israel is fighting against an extremist and verifiably dangerous religious sect (Hamas). Surely that is righteous given your above comments?
And I’ll just leave this here. It’s well cited so follow sources if you like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
You can’t post about JD Vance because that bloated face meme hurt his feelings. I’m sure any human rights groups worth their salt have had plenty to say about the US. They’ve been disappearing Muslims to black sites for decades. That among the litany of ways minorities are targeted. So what’s your point? That you’re so deep in American propaganda that you thought you had a point?
You can’t post about JD Vance because that bloated face meme hurt his feelings.
Oh you can’t? Are you afraid for your life after having posted this then? Exactly which journalist has been imprisoned for re-sharing it?
She went missing in Wuhan in May 2020. It later emerged that she had been taken by the Chinese authorities and detained in Shanghai, where she was convicted of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble” after a sham trial. Zhang Zhan was released on 13 May 2024 after completing a four-year prison sentence.
People only see black and white. Everything is “completely free” or “it’s all just equally bad.” Sooo frustrating. You have no concept of shades of gray do you?
The public records request filed by Mikkelsen and his lawyer also alleged that Mikkelsen was detained for 18 hours, during which his repeated requests to contact the Norwegian consulate were denied in violation of diplomatic conventions. Mikkelsen also claimed he was threatened with imprisonment and fines if he did not turn over passwords to his device or sign certain documents.
Mikkelsen had planned a months-long trip to the US to visit friends and tour national parks with his mother, he told Hyperallergic in an interview after he returned to Norway in June. However, while passing through passport control at Newark, he was summoned into a room where he said ICE agents asked him if he planned to commit terrorism, belonged to any extremist groups, or was smuggling narcotics.
CBP officers then inspected Mikkelsen’s phone, according to his account of the events, where they found the viral meme of a bald JD Vance and photos of a pipe he said he made in trade school. Publicly, the DHS has stated that Mikkelsen was denied entry because he admitted to using marijuana, which he acknowledges having done twice in places where the substance is legal.
However, DHS’s public narrative does not match what Mikkelsen claims officers told him in the interrogation room, nor does it match documents from CBP reviewed by Hyperallergic.
Officers handed Mikkelsen a document known as an I-877, which is an official sworn report provided by DHS in instances where an individual is denied entry into the US. Mikkelsen’s I-877 states that he was denied entry because he appeared to be seeking illegal employment, which he denies.
Mikkelsen told Hyperallergic that during his interview, however, he remembers that he was told the JD Vance meme was “illegal” and “dangerous.”
Mikkelsen requested a copy of his I-877 in his FOIA request, which the agency claimed it had no record of.
“I’m disappointed in CBP and ICE for not being able to give me the documents that I have a copy of,” Mikkelsen told Hyperallergic. “If anything, it just looks like they are trying to hide something.”
Yeah, I know. I’m DEFINITELY not saying that China’s a good place to live.
Just that it’s perhaps a less bad place to live for some people than the fascist-occupied US is.
Going to China to avoid fascism is quite the self own, though.
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China is becoming the lesser of two evils
But who’s the self getting owned? In this case it’s the us
- with a mythology as the bastion of freedom, nation of immigrants, melting pot, etc leaning fascist hard enough to drive people toward a known fascist country
- with pride in science and innovation, leaning fascist hard enough to drive away the best and the brightest, the future of our science and innovation
What is drawing top comedians to Saudi, a place where you get killed for saying or writing things the ruling family doesn’t like?
I see a trend there but I can’t quite… Wait, could it be loads of money?
Wow. This article…
…after reading the article, money, greed, opportunity…
This is propaganda.
From Singapore…
So what?
All media is propaganda, so the question is whoes. This is from Singapore, which is very well placed to take in Chinese researches itself. So saying China is an option, is not extacly positive for them.
i wouldnt call it reverse brain drain, the problem with china is having the CCP as the govt, which they can disallow any type of research they dont like. also china has a problem innovation, instead going for reverse engineering through industrial espionage which is much easier to do then performing hypothetical research. the most useful research they done is mostly around botany/discovery, dinosaurs, because plants have a massive biodeversity in china
