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    2 days ago

    Nope. It doesn’t debunk anything. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, yes, but it is not the same thing as being trans, it is a possible consequence of being trans .

    Not everyone who’s trans has that mental illness, but I guess they share the feeling, that they don’t want to express the gender identity of their assigned gender very strongly. So your strawman of the person who does everything in their control to appear as a masculine manly-man and to fit a masculine sterotype, while they identify as a woman is highly unlikely.

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        I know perfectly well, what a straw man is. But I’m not gonna argue about it and leave the de-railing to you.

        The point is, that your example is a made up fantasy, that never happened and you’re arguing against it to support your stance, while no one ever pleaded for that case. Doesn’t matter what we call it, it’s bullshit rhethoric either way. And it doesn’t make you look like someone who’s arguing in good faith.

        Your news article also doesn’t support your fantasy. None of the people in this article are wearing flannel shirts or scraggly beards, basically it doesn’t tell us anything about the gender expression of these people at all. The only thing male about them is their genitalia (which is biological sex, not gender), and while I can understand, that this leads to confusion in an all naked spa, it is a completely different thing, than what you initially argued against.

        Also your source is pretty obviously biased against trans people, their wording makes that clear.