Dude, I had never even HEARD of this guy’s name prior to his death. What is going on here!? Why are people freaking out. Am I that out of touch?

Even my liberal wife was aware of who this guy was. Was anyone else like me?

I know who Ben Shapiro is. But Charlie Kirk!? This entire time both the left and the right either hates or adored this guy? What are you all surfing on your cell phones!?

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    I’d only heard of him in the sense of him being one of a flock of fascist wastes of oxygen who grifted around the country spewing hate and violence and making people’s lives worse and more dangerous. He was a name on a list of scum who we’d be better off with them never having been born.

    All I’ve learned about him since is that I was fucking right. Having him not exist anymore is a net gain in the long term but he’s still pissing me off for now by the fact that I’m wasting my fucking time and my fucking attention and my fucking blood pressure on his fucking bullshit even more than I was.

    He can fucking rot with Rush Limbaugh and Joseph Goebbels and the rest of their fucking detestable cabal of fucking filth. If I never hear his fucking name again it’ll be too fucking soon and the universe still owes me my fucking time back from every moment I’ve wasted having to fucking be exposed to this shit.

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    I knew barely, just some of stuff he said. He was a nazi cunt. And member of the paedophile cult (christian).

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    You probably saw images of Kirk and assumed they were bad photoshops of Shapiro. They basically were two cheeks of the same ass spewing hateful shit for far right to gobble up.

    Kirk was often mocked for having a round head and relatively small face, where Shapiro was generally mocked for his numerous bad takes and awful admissions. Both of them had almost identical debate styles of just doubling down on false narratives and denying anything contrary to their agenda even in when presented with proof.

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      For years I had no idea that Steven Crowder and Dave Rubin were different people. I found out when one of them got divorced from a woman and I was so confused cause I was sure that guy was gay.

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    I had no idea, but I watched one of the early South Market episodes this season. And Cartman was pretending to be him.

    As soon as I watched some of the footage of the deed, I knew exactly who he was based on the South Park. But prior to that, no, absolutely not.

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    I was aware of his existence. Saw him say some racist shit once. Wrote him off as a chud mouthpiece. Maybe a Podcaster or something.

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    Never heard about the guy before his death, but to my credit, i live in Europe. Paradoxically, his death looks like a benediction for the reps, they have now a new pretext to cancel or condemn the dems, they just have to look a bit too happy about his assassination.

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    I spent half a day wondering why anyone would want to kill the Black Mirror guy. And wtf was he doing in Utah?

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    Heard of the name but just like ben shapiro, don’t know or care about them. The memes about kirk were funny but now getting bored of it. There are worse things going on right now than some streamer getting shot.

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    A hateful, young alt-reich kid was taken out by another hateful, young alt-reich kid because one of them didn’t think the other was hateful enough. So the entire MAGA cult is in overdrive trying to convince the world that charlie was killed by “the left”. You’re only hearing about it because its a completely insane political spin.

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    Only heard of him when I subscribed to r/ToiletPaperUSA which was a parody to Turning Point USA and learnt tiny bit of what he said but I never gone out my way to research about him as I know Far-Right figures (even the online one) just pissed me off.

    I only learnt lot more about him when he died when Liberals on Bluesky pull the “we should debate” and sided with Right-wingers who said it’s “The Left” is responsible. Mind you, that’s even before we found out both the killer and their political stance which turns out, he’s the Groyper (some 4Chan far-right bullshit). Think he killed Charlie as they believe he wasn’t Right-wing enough and had for years spread an smear campaign I believe against him.

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        Seems highly unlikely at this point. Texts have come out from the Utah police indicating he was in a relationship with a trans person and upset at Kirk’s rhetoric. I wouldn’t call him ideologically coherent, but also…not a groyper.

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    Nope. I did know some morons out there thought mass or school shootings weren’t a big deal and complained civil rights encroached on their feelings of white supremacy. Never knew his name specifically because it feels like there’s a whole cluster of those idiots who no one ever taught the Golden Rule to. Be kind and treat all people respectfully.

    I felt bad about him dying because having idiotic ideals doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve life, but I also kind of chalked the event up to darwinism. If someone constantly puts themselves in front of the masses promoting hate and violence, its only a matter of time before hatred and violence finds them. In that aspect, he probably wasn’t fully innocent of the event himself as so many have made him out to be. I never heard of Hitler himself ever personally killing anyone, but his rhetoric and influence of others was the cause of plenty of deaths. Murder is always wrong.

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    Before the assassination, I just knew him as the tiny face chud with Turning Point USA who spewed insipid talking points to “own” the left.

    If you’ve seen him before, it was probably in a meme like this.