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    2 days ago

    Go away.

    Even I2P uses supernodes, that doesn’t make it centralized because you don’t depend on them.

    You don’t need ultra purist single-type-node mesh like scuttlebutt to be decentralized.

    Bluesky is federated, where the federation has multiple layers and EVERY layer can be run independently and interconnected to other nodes.

    You can even connect to MULTIPLE! An appview can talk to many relays, a PDS account host can talk to many relays, anybody can subscribe to multiple separate feeds generators and moderation labelers hosted wherever, using any app, etc.

    Beyond that, you still have not addressed that you said a blatantly self contradicting statement; that people self host relays, but also they don’t self host relays because that is costly and the self hosted relay code available to the public is experimental and mainly used for reasons tangential to the core function of a production ready relay.

    Your inability to read remains YOUR problem, not mine.

    My point is exactly this - it’s feasible to maintain your own private relay by mirroring the content you want, imitating both Mastodon and scuttlebutt.

    You can choose to share a community relay - or not.

    Running it for an audience of yourself is reasonably cheap. Running it for a worldwide audience is where bandwidth gets expensive. That’s why people run private ones.

    Not capable of synchronizing with the original? Lmao. It’s literally content addressed, you can synchronize with every relay separately, swap arbitrarily between public appviews, regardless of who runs what and where it gets data from. It’s maximally capable of synchronization. It even beats nostr and scuttlebutt because you can VERIFY you have fresh and complete data (Merkle trees yay).

    Pretty sure Whitewind pulls in data themselves directly when users use self hosted atproto accounts, maintaining its own relay index. Don’t think they make it publicly accessible though

    Not having gatekeepers is what matters the most. You can run all infrastructure yourself and still interact with bluesky users (need to use DID:Web, but that’s a minor point)