Israel has begun mobilizing some 60,000 reservists to take part in its planned occupation of Gaza City, the army confirmed Tuesday, signaling a major escalation in the genocidal war now in its 23rd month, Anadolu reports.
The military said the reservists will be issued weapons, personal gear and full tactical equipment, with units undergoing drills in urban and open terrain combat “to boost readiness for upcoming missions.”
Israeli daily Maariv said the mobilization would see reservists undergo three to four days of training before some are reassigned to replace regular troops stationed on the northern front.
The step follows Friday’s declaration of Gaza City as a “dangerous combat zone,” accompanied by heavy bombardment and demolitions that have already caused mass civilian casualties and widespread destruction. Gaza’s Government Media Office has accused the army of deploying explosive-laden robots and adopting a “scorched earth” strategy.
when do we start calling them nazis?
Zionists are their own kind of evil. They deserve their own label.
They clearly aren’t Nazis, because Nazis were not and are not some generic evil, but a specific one. So never.
People only want to call them Nazis as a lazy shorthand for the ultimate evil, and because of the painful irony. Neither of these are good reasons.
Let’s ask the survivors of Gaza what they want to call Israel and just go with that.
And I hope there will be survivors.
they are genocidal monsters, doing nazi like things with nazi rhetoric and the only difference is the lack of a german language.
please.
they’re fucking nazis.
the only difference is the lack of a german language.
And the lack of anti-semitism
And the boundedness of their expansionism
And many other differences.
Expand your fucking vocabulary, rather than reaching for the only genocidal analogue you can think of. There has been more than one genocide in history, and you do dishonour to the victims of any one by using its name to describe something different.
Zionism is inherently antisemitic
Please explain how Zionism is:
Prejudiced, discriminatory, hostile or opposed politically or religiously against ethnic or religious Jews or against Judaism
More information on usage can be found here but even if you want to use the non-standard sense of the word, it is:
- clearly wrong, because Zionism privileges one group it should be prejudiced against if it were anti-semitic in this sense; and
- clearly not the anti-semitism of the Nazis - so in no way does this make Zionism a form of Nazism, which is what we were talking about.
Zionism relies on “othering” Jews, making them feel unsafe in their home countries. They literally sterilized African Jews in the pursuit of their colonial vision.
As for Nazism, I’m not arguing there, it is technically different. But insofar as people think about Nazis as evil, it’s a useful word in these conversations.
I agree it’s useful to highlight the parallels between what the Israeli government does now and what was done to the Jewish population by the Nazis, but equating the two is not useful, is actively harmful, and extremely offensive. That’s what I objected to above.
Zionism relies on “othering” Jews, making them feel unsafe in their home countries.
You can just as well say that all nationalist projects rely on “othering” in the sense of dividing whatever group is deemed “us” from everyone else. But of course, nobody normally calls this “othering”, because it explicitly makes the in-group us not other than us. It would be wholly wrong to say that Zionist Jews characterise Jews as other than us, so I don’t see how this is “othering” in any way that makes sense. They may other particular subgroups, but that is simply not a basis for describing the process as “othering Jews” because Jewishness is not the axis along which the division is being made; rather it is the axis of the subgroup. Scots might other the English, and this would not be a basis on which to accuse Scots of anti-British prejudice.
Othering alone is in any case not prejudice; it is merely something that often precedes it.
They literally sterilized African Jews in the pursuit of their colonial vision.
That would be a subgroup of Jews, not Jews as a whole. You wouldn’t call it homophobia to bully Michael who happens to be gay if you don’t bully other gay people.
They are GENOCIDING SEMITIC PEOPLE.
They want to remove Gaza and sell homes to other zionists.
Stop. just … grow the fuck up. It’s almost like you’re either defending zionists or nazis, I can’t tell which. Done with you.
There are TONS of genocides happening today. Not all are by nazis. I never said that. Two things can be true at once… and zionism’s growth and foothold on the semitic people of Palestine is a ww1/ww2 era invention. You know. When those silly nazis you seem to think don’t exist seemed to crop up.
I am defending the truth, and you’re too committed to your untruth (whether mistake or lie) to accept that someone can do that while otherwise sharing your beliefs.
They are GENOCIDING SEMITIC PEOPLE.
“Semitic people” is not a category that is used any more; it could refer to “speakers of Semitic languages” but is completely obsolete for referring to ethnicity. And besides, Zionism, or the current Israeli government’s version of it, is not murdering Palestinians because they belong to the group of people once referred to as “Semitic” because that would include all Arabs and all Jews as well as several other people. Genociding people who belong to a certain category doesn’t mean you’re anti- that category. For a trivial example, they are genociding human beings - does that mean they are anti-human? Obviously not.
So, if anti-semitism does not refer to hatred for the entire group of “Semitic people”, what does it refer to? Well, it has some history being used more or less in the way you apparently believe it still is used, but in 1879 a chap called Wilhelm Marr wrote a pamphlet in which he used Semitismus interchangeably with Judentum, and Antisemitismus as a synonym for Judenhaß - Jew-hatred. That is what it has meant since.
There is only one reason I can think of beyond blinkered stubbornness that you could possibly want to associate the Nazis and antisemitism with the Israeli government, and that is out of some pathetic sense of irony, that it is somehow poetic that the Jews have become what befell them in the early 20th century. That is poetic, but poetry isn’t truth, and disregarding the suffering of Jews at the hands of the real Nazis by calling what Israel now commits “Nazism” belies a disregard for Jews as a whole which is at best distasteful and at worst abhorrent.
You are letting yourself speak in a prejudiced way because of your opposition to the genocide that Israel is carrying out. How can you say “grow up” when you let that happen? No population deserves to be murdered the way Israel is murdering Palestinians - but no population deserves to have its past suffering mocked in the way you mock the suffering of Jews by calling Israel Nazis.
6 months ago
naa. about 75 years ago.
They weren’t nazi 30 years ago? Or 50?
I don’t live there so I never really knew the extent of Israeli depravity until recent events pulled back the veil for me. What I’ve read and seen in the last year has convinced me that entire society is fucked beyond redemption and collectively deserve the title “Nazi”. Maybe they were just as shitty 50 years ago, I think that a lot of people myself included are learning a lot about Israel recently.
