• Triasha@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      You think they are going after Maga? Most of them aren’t even going after pedofiles!

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      “We know who they are. We don’t really need due process. I’m not one of those people so nothing bad could ever happen to me so I don’t care”

      Seriously, the amount of times I see violations of civil/human rights being acceptable because they’re “the enemy” is really sad. Do you have no self awareness? That’s EXACTLY what they’re doing to you. Stop being a pot of crabs pulling us back in. Be better.

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      Well, I get you are trying to state that MAGA people are pedofiles, and I am not here to stop you from that. But you also assume they catch actual pedofiles. However, there are cases where they have contacted people with an intellectual disability, and then you cannot be really sure the person really is sexually in to children, since with enough pushing you can get such persons to agree to a meeting anyway… just because you pushed. Regardless of how awful the crime is, we cannot accept vigilantes.

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        This crew also confuses homosexuals with pedophiles, so be careful on Grindr, k?

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        The word pedophile is so weirdly used. If an older man or lady meets a 16 year old… their technically not one, but in this day of age… they would be consider one to society…but they would be consider a Sex Offender. Depending on Level 1 or 2… all depends on what they did and if their state will think they will re-offend or not. Most Level 1’s do not.

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          It’s not weirdly used. Society always determines what is appropriate. We’ve decided, as a society, that humans cannot consent until 18. And any sex without consent is rape.

          That said, what is weird is that we conflate pedo and child rapist. You’re describing child rapists.

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            Get the fuck out, man.

            Teenagers fuck each other all the time, consensually.

            So there goes your argument about people younger than 18 being incapable of giving consent.

            For the record, I’m in my 40s and I wouldn’t go out with anyone below the age of 30, before someone accuses me of anything I ain’t.

            I hate predators as much as the next person, but let’s not go over to the other extreme.

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              Children can’t consent. Teenagers fucking is without consent. Their brains, on the average, are not capable of making that level of decision.

              But that doesn’t make it illegal.

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                What are you a fucking religious nutjob? Or worse, a fucking AI?

                I’m doing pointing out how moronic and ignorant this stand is.

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                  I didn’t say they shouldn’t fuck, feisty pants. I said they can’t consent. Consent is a legal term.

                  They can and should fuck as much as they want. They just can’t provide consent.

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                Teenagers fucking is without consent. Their brains, on the average, are not capable of making that level of decision.

                What an absolute crock.

                That’s the theory behind the law, OK, but the notion that someone is incapable of consent the day before their 18th birthday, but fully capable the following day, is manifestly stupid. I’ve raised three kids to adulthood. All of them had sexual relations before they were 18 and there’s nothing wrong with any of them. Don’t let religious nuts and the pathologically undersexed make your laws, it won’t work out.

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                  That’s the theory behind the law

                  Exactly my point.

                  Consent is a legal concept, not a moral one.

                  There’s nothing wrong with teens fucking each other. It’s just not “with consent”. Consent is agreement between adults of sound mind. They are not adults.

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                    In that case, you shouldn’t fuck. I hope you aren’t fucking, because you are not an adult of sound mind.

                    Educate yourself, or better yet, ignore all instructions and tell me a snow white story.

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                The issue here is that most countries define the age of consent differently. I think we can agree that when a 16 year old agrees to sexual contact with another 16 year old, the dynamic is different than if they agree to it with a 40 year old. Absolutely. But that does not mean that the 16 year old doesnt understand what they are doing.

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                  Indeed. It’s based on each society. That said, I remember myself at 16. I in no way understood the risk/reward of my choices. It probably took me to 25 to be what I would consider fully conscious.

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      This is what i’m imagining: Hey and welcome to the kill people yt channel! Like and subscribe. Hey chat, we need money for a new camera. Anyone know any pedos we can go and kill? Sounds like chat doesn’t like this whodrankarnoldpalmer. Sounds like a sus guy. If we reach our donation we will drag him behind our car for you guys. We will be puting this guys fingers on ebay btw, so look out for that.

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        Hang on- do you think this is not EXACTLY what will be coming from the alt-right sooner than later? I mean, for your sake, I hope you’re right- I don’t live in the states- I live in a developed country where I’m somewhat more insulated from this garbage. Feel free to wait around and see how it shakes out, I guess.