I can eat sushi, pizza, samosas, kebab (kabobs, döner or shawarmas depending on your frame of reference), gyoza/pot stickers/tortellone/pasteczki (or whatever), noodles/ramen/spaghetti, knödeln/kroppkakor and so on and so on. Leaving lots of cultures unsaid.

I can enjoy music, cringy cultural movies (animated and not), fun cirque sessions (even without animals being endangered), go to festivals for various cultures, enjoin then in our cultures of scouting, mountaineering, hiking and share my love of enjoying nature.

I can drive electric cars, communicate on Internet forums, keep in touch with new friends as well as loved ones across the world.

I would be in a much poorer world without you all.

    • Grimtuck@lemmy.world
      27·
      1 month ago

      The billionaires have you convinced. Congratulations. Now only billionaires can benefit from cheap labour. I wonder how that happened? What kind of forces would possibly make it so that only the rich would benefit? Must be the immigrants, right?

      • bradorsomething@ttrpg.network
        18·
        1 month ago

        I’m only in mid-six figures and I’ll admit I benefit and the poor suffer. If there was no immigrant labor general goods would cost more, and I’d feel the drag paying more for what is cheaper… like I will soon when we’re all competing with dollars for a share if smaller harvests. I predict we’ll feel it hard around thanksgiving.

        The only solutions locally are discovery of more economic ways to produce, or importing from cheaper parts of the world. We’ve been covering our eyes on where the chicken comes from for years, and we’re going to learn a hard lesson by going cold turkey.

        • BitchPeas@lemmy.world
          11·
          1 month ago

          Gurl. It’s resource management. We have people destroying goods to inflate price. There’s plenty for every human on the planet. It’s literally the people in control, my six figure friend, purposefully creating false scarcity and fear mongering.

    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
      22·
      1 month ago

      No, just no. You’re missing the point. Poor people are poor people, some are immigrants, some are not.

      Anything that benefits poor immigrants will also benefit poor citizens. Anything that enriches white nationals, will enrich the rich immigrants that can become nationals just paying money anyways.

      It is your boss taking away your job and giving it to the lowest bidder. It doesn’t matter who the bidder is. There will always be someone poorer than you, willing to work for less out of desperation. Sometimes they ar immigrants, sometimes they are white nationals.

        • pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe
          4·
          1 month ago

          Reality = immigrants bad because corporate daddy decided they’re the best scapegoats for all the shit they promulgate.

          And I accept that reality because it fits my idea of how I look at any one that’s even slightly different and “lesser” than me.

          I much rather be the only one well off. Because reality means only helping those who have the same skin color as me. Everyone else can go die.

    • Pringles@sopuli.xyz
      9·
      1 month ago

      Pay and conditions were not destroyed because of immigrants, but are a side effect of globalization. Production facilities were offshored, leading to a collapse of local manufacturing and low skill jobs (where no prior education is required, low skill jobs can and sometimes do require a lot of skill). Reshoring those jobs is incredibly difficult because it also means reconfiguring the supply lines. For urban areas this is not a huge issue, as those can switch to a service based economy, but for small towns this often meant that the main economic driver of the town left and people lost jobs.

      Anyway, not caused by immigration. As a matter of fact, immigrants are a significant driver of economic activity and partly offset that.

        • Wolf@lemmy.today
          3·
          1 month ago

          It’s the Republicans who consistently vote against paying people a reasonable minimum wage and against protections for working people who are clearly to blame, but sure blame immigrants. Talk about not dealing with reality.