• 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    Flatpaks are great for situations where installing software is unnecessary complex or complicated.

    I have Steam installed for some games, and since this is a 32 bits application it would install a metric shit-don of 32 bit dependencies I do not use for anything else except Steam, so I use the Flatpak version.

    Or Kdenlive for video editing. Kdenlive is the only KDE software I use but when installing it, it feels like due to dependencies I also get pretty much all of the KDE desktop’s applications I do not need nor use nor want on my machine. So Flatpak it is.

    And then there is software like OBS, which is known for being borderline unusable when not using the only officially supported way to use it on Linux outside of Ubuntu – which is Flatpak.

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      4 hours ago

      And then there is software like OBS, which is known for being borderline unusable when not using the only officially supported way to use it on Linux outside of Ubuntu – which is Flatpak.

      But why is that? I mean just because it is packaged by someone else does not mean its unusable. So its not the package formats issue, but your distribution packaging it wrong. Right? In installed the Flatpak version, because they developers recommended it to me. I’m not sure why the Archlinux package should be unusable (and I don’t want to mess around with it, because I don’t know what part is unusable).

      • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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        43 minutes ago

        But why is that?

        Because the OBS developers say so.

        And since I’m not on Ubuntu, I use the Flatpak version to get OBS as intended bey the OBS developers.

        So its not the package formats issue, but your distribution packaging it wrong. Right?

        Exactly. Most distributions fail hard when it comes to packaging OBS correctly. The OBS devs even threatened to sue Fedora over this.

        https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues/39#note_2344970813

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          32 minutes ago

          The quoted image does not say so, they do not say the native packaging from your distribution is borderline unusable. That judgement was added by YOU. The devs just state the package on Archlinux is not officially supported, without making a judgement (at least in the quoted image).

          As for the Fedora issue, that is a completely different thing. That is also Flatpak, so its not the package format itself the issue. Fedora did package the application in Flatpak their own way and presented it as the official product. That is a complete different issue! That has nothing to do with Archlinux packaging their own native format. Archlinux never said or presented it as the official package either and it does not look like the official Flatpak version.

          So where does the developers say that anything that is not their official Flatpak package is “borderline unusable”?

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      4 hours ago

      Flatpaks are great for situations where installing software is unnecessary complex or complicated.

      That’s my main use for flatpaks too. Add to that any and all closed source software, because you can’t trust that without a sandbox around it.

      Recently I’ve moved from using flatpak for electron apps and instead have a single flatpak ungoogled chromium instance I use for PWAs.

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      8 hours ago

      This is the main benefit. However, i’m finding the software I use requires less dependencies and libraries these days.

      I barely even use flatpaks anymore. Almost everything is in official repos. I couldn’t tell you the last time I had a dependency conflict.