Interesting debate, and certainly has some truth to it. Because individuals seek personal gain, they fulfill someone else’s ideology they don’t really care about but it helps them to get promoted or get rich. But Hitler definitely planned the holocaust as a “final solution to the Jewish question” in Mein Kampf.
In that sense Trump is very different from Hitler - he doesn’t really believe in anything but being the strong man. He has no ideology. He’s not really a racist. But he adopts ideology that enchants and beguile the masses, so it works similar to the functionalist view.
I believe that MAGA functionaries actually look for things that would shock and pain liberals, and then make that real, simply because it would be “fun” for the MAGA crowd and enrage the libs, and keep them constantly in a confused and shocked state. Just to keep it all going.
No, he is. Yeah, he’ll pick up and abandon most positions at the drop of a hat, but racism has been one thing that he’s been consistent with, going back at least to the Central Park Five.
I think he has some “baseline European racism” but I honestly don’t think he’s a foaming at the mouth with murderous intent, says the n-word with the hard r several times a day kind of racist. He’s just an extremely flawed sociopath on top of that. Openly saying racist shit is just like openly saying things like “God bless America” after a bomb-run on yet another sovereign nation: the dummies respond positively to it, and words are cheap, so why not do it? The only difference is that he’s definitely somewhat racist, but does not care about God or religion even the tiniest bit, lol.
White people invented the power plant, the car, and the plane. It requires an explanation.
One explanation is that culture and science advanced to the point where that is possible, by `standing on the shoulders of giants´ ~ Isaac Newton
Royalty like Trump prefer an explanation that their blood and genes, rather than their privilege and opportunities, are greater than others. Since they wont admit that men are created equal, they cling to belief in hierarchy.
I think I understand what they mean. Trump is not a racist ideologue. He’s not a “capital R” Racist, the way Hitler was. He’s racist and his racism influences everything he does of course. But that’s “lowercase r” racist. It’s not what defines him, it’s just one of his characteristics, maybe not even his most defining one.
Well I do think he is “casually” racist but not serious. Like it’s not a guiding ideology. If it’s between making a scene or shaking the hand of a colored person’s hand he has no problem with that. He doesn’t really give a shit. He’s a malignant narcissist, which means he is driven by the psychological need to be “the best and most amazing person”. Justifying that just because of his whiteness would probably almost be an insult to his unique greatness.
I also think his mind is in a kind of fugue state where he’s not fully conscious, like sleepwalking. He’s more like an LLM that is constantly throwing things out “to win” and his mind is optimized to do that very well. If you’d institutionalize him, put him on medication to calm him down and then slowly and calmly begin talk therapy you’d probably find he’s just a standard narcissist without any special ideology. Possibly Hitler was similarily “out there” in that regard, but they actually and truly believed in their ideology. They also believed in their nation and making it great, which Trump doesn’t give a shit about either.
You can define fascism (including racism or sexism) as a “sincere belief in inequality based on identity”. He certainly believes in that, just only for himself. In comparison, neoliberals also have a sincere belief in inequality, just based on class / wealth.
Interesting debate, and certainly has some truth to it. Because individuals seek personal gain, they fulfill someone else’s ideology they don’t really care about but it helps them to get promoted or get rich. But Hitler definitely planned the holocaust as a “final solution to the Jewish question” in Mein Kampf.
In that sense Trump is very different from Hitler - he doesn’t really believe in anything but being the strong man. He has no ideology. He’s not really a racist. But he adopts ideology that enchants and beguile the masses, so it works similar to the functionalist view.
I believe that MAGA functionaries actually look for things that would shock and pain liberals, and then make that real, simply because it would be “fun” for the MAGA crowd and enrage the libs, and keep them constantly in a confused and shocked state. Just to keep it all going.
No, he is. Yeah, he’ll pick up and abandon most positions at the drop of a hat, but racism has been one thing that he’s been consistent with, going back at least to the Central Park Five.
I think he has some “baseline European racism” but I honestly don’t think he’s a foaming at the mouth with murderous intent, says the n-word with the hard r several times a day kind of racist. He’s just an extremely flawed sociopath on top of that. Openly saying racist shit is just like openly saying things like “God bless America” after a bomb-run on yet another sovereign nation: the dummies respond positively to it, and words are cheap, so why not do it? The only difference is that he’s definitely somewhat racist, but does not care about God or religion even the tiniest bit, lol.
You dont think Trump is racist???
White people invented the power plant, the car, and the plane. It requires an explanation.
One explanation is that culture and science advanced to the point where that is possible, by `standing on the shoulders of giants´ ~ Isaac Newton
Royalty like Trump prefer an explanation that their blood and genes, rather than their privilege and opportunities, are greater than others. Since they wont admit that men are created equal, they cling to belief in hierarchy.
I think I understand what they mean. Trump is not a racist ideologue. He’s not a “capital R” Racist, the way Hitler was. He’s racist and his racism influences everything he does of course. But that’s “lowercase r” racist. It’s not what defines him, it’s just one of his characteristics, maybe not even his most defining one.
Well I do think he is “casually” racist but not serious. Like it’s not a guiding ideology. If it’s between making a scene or shaking the hand of a colored person’s hand he has no problem with that. He doesn’t really give a shit. He’s a malignant narcissist, which means he is driven by the psychological need to be “the best and most amazing person”. Justifying that just because of his whiteness would probably almost be an insult to his unique greatness.
I also think his mind is in a kind of fugue state where he’s not fully conscious, like sleepwalking. He’s more like an LLM that is constantly throwing things out “to win” and his mind is optimized to do that very well. If you’d institutionalize him, put him on medication to calm him down and then slowly and calmly begin talk therapy you’d probably find he’s just a standard narcissist without any special ideology. Possibly Hitler was similarily “out there” in that regard, but they actually and truly believed in their ideology. They also believed in their nation and making it great, which Trump doesn’t give a shit about either.
You can define fascism (including racism or sexism) as a “sincere belief in inequality based on identity”. He certainly believes in that, just only for himself. In comparison, neoliberals also have a sincere belief in inequality, just based on class / wealth.
Even if you propose that he’s using racism as a tool, that still makes him racist.
Sure, but that’s not really the point. And I do think it’s an important point to understand how trumpism and neofascism works.