• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    10 hours ago

    It’s just you. There were mass protests across the country just a couple of weeks ago.

    Unless you meant the senseless destruction of property.

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      9 hours ago

      Mass protests where people did nothing in particular. That is, in fact, not resistance. People in LA are actually making it harder for ICE to terrorize them.

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        8 hours ago

        Mass protests where people did nothing particular.

        A mass protest, in and of itself, is not “nothing”.

        People in LA are actually making it harder for ICE to terrorize them.

        I would argue the opposite. You haven’t noticed the National Guard and Marines being deployed there?

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          A mass protest, in and of itself, is not “nothing”.

          It is. What happened on June 14th was technically a mass protest, but it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective. In essence, that wasn’t a protest; it was a parade. They can, in theory, be used as a launching point for something more effective, but on their own? Yeah, nothing.

          You haven’t noticed the National Guard and Marines being deployed there?

          Okay and? They were deployed because ICE wasn’t able to do their jobs, and even now they’re suffering widespread harassment and obstruction. Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn’t the flex you think it is.

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            7 hours ago

            it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective

            Oh please, do go on, what makes a protest effective? Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors’ property?

            Okay and?

            Okay and…that’s bad?

            Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn’t the flex you think it is.

            Getting the marines and national guard deployed on you isn’t the flex you think it is.

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              Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors’ property?

              No, real obstruction of fascist activity. And, you know, turning out on a weekday. Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt. That is simply not what happens when you parade for two hours on a Saturday.

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                6 hours ago

                No, real obstruction of fascist activity.

                You’re using a bunch of general language. Why don’t you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt.

                Good luck not getting fired.

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                  Why don’t you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                  I can’t find the article now, but I read one yesterday about LA protesters doing things like blocking ICE vehicles, towing them away and making noise outside their hotels so they can’t sleep. They’re actually confronting ICE and LAPD, draining away their energy and reducing the pace of arrests. Here’s an example. Do this on a national scale and Trump’s little Gestapo won’t stand a chance.

                  Good luck not getting fired.

                  They can’t fire everyone, but more importantly look up the events of Euromaidan, the various Arab spring revolutions and the recent Serbian (or was it Slovakian?) protests. It’s impossible to overthrow authoritarianism without personal risk; that’s just not how that works. You’re free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can’t claim that you’re resisting, because you’re not; it’s either or.

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                    You’re free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can’t claim that you’re resisting, because you’re not; it’s either or.

                    There’s “personal risk” and then there’s losing your livelihood.