I don’t know how extended this is, but apparently there are car makers selling cars with no keys. Instead you download a proprietary app and use it to access your car.

I like being practical and talking to a car to turn the volume up or down, to open the door or to turn the temperature higher are things I don’t need nor want. Give me mechanical levers, reachable stalks and no proprietary bloatware. I don’t need a movie theater on wheels.

Imagine an early 2000s car running on an electric motor. That’s what I want.

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      Woah hold on so a backup camera is also a legal requirement? That sounds a bit too much hand-holding for me jeez. (But I’m used to old cars and motorcycles)

      Ok looked it up, yup since May 2018! Interesting

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        I feel that backup cameras have become more necessary as crash safety rules have become more stringent. The belt line on cars is really high now. You can’t see as much out of the sides or the back. My car from the early 2000s definitely had windows that were lower and I had no trouble parallel parking it without a camera. I appreciate the cameras on the newer vehicles. Easier parking is great but also… not running over little kids is good too I suppose.

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          Good point about the lack of visibility… my usual fear is that every new requirement becomes an excuse to only make expensive and heavy, tall monstrosities, but a camera and screen are very cheap today so those are more than okay I guess, just like seatbelts and airbags.

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    My Chevy Bolt is all Electric and has a real physical key that has to be in the cabin to drive. No app bullshit. The Bolt is currently out of production but any of the Chevy EV should be the same. Chevy never went full app-dumb and many of the modern convenience features are gates behind OnStar. I have a regular car remote for lock, unlock, and prestart.

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      has a real physical key that has to be in the cabin to drive

      🤨 the way you say “has to be in the cabin” makes me think it’s not a real physical key, and is actually a wireless smart key that you leave in your pocket when starting the car.

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        It’s got a metal key inside the housing that unlocks the doors and the fob sensor is actually inside the armrest so if the battery is dead you place the fob inside a pocket in the armrest and it authenticates your fob with NFC and you drive away. Closest I’ve seen in a modern car anywhere.

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          Well at least the physical key works for the doors. What year is that?

          Yeah, I wish there was a company that made a fully dumb electric car, but there’s just no incentive to do that. I have a 2014 gas car with a normal physical key that you use to turn start it, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen an electric car where you have to use the physical key to start the car.