Civil rights activists in Germany have demanded an independent inquiry into alleged police racism after an officer shot a 21-year-old black man from behind, killing him after an altercation outside a nightclub.
The 27-year-old officer was suspended from duty over the shooting early on Sunday morning in the city of Oldenburg in north-west Germany pending a murder investigation, said state prosecutors. Fatal police shootings are relatively rare in Germany and prosecutors were quoted in local media as saying the suspension and investigation were “routine”.
Police have not identified the victim due to data protection laws but media and pressure groups have identified him as Lorenz A.
The news report on this and some say that allegedly he threatened the officers with tear gas or a knife, but even if he did, in no way is shooting someone justified in this situation. Ever. His skin definitely played a role in this since racist and right-wing police in Germany is nothing new
allegedly he threatened the officers with tear gas or a knife, but even he did, in no way is shooting someone justified in this situation.
Have to disagree with you here: If threatened with a stick, police have to pull out a bigger stick to do their job.
If a person starts a fist fight, the baton is the proper method to a) defend yourself and b) gain an advantage over the attacker. If the person then pulls a knife, the baton loses its advantage and a new tool is needed to regain it.
The issue in this case is not the choice of the tool for the job: Pulling the gun on someone attacking others with a knife. The issue is the attacker was shot in the back, which raises the question if he was still a threat.
Little fun fact: The vests regular police are wearing in Germany (at least in the southwest where I live) are bulletproof against small arms fire, but not stab proof. So “just tackle him and take it on the armour” is not an option.
Do cops in Germany not have Pepper Spray? Do they not have tazers? It seems like there were plenty of options to deal with the threat at hand without killing them. But the cop decided to take the US approach of shoot first ask questions later.
Pepper Spray
I am not sure how pepper spray is supposed to stop someone from wildly slashing around.
Not have tazers?
Been many times proven to be unreliable: Highly depends on what the attacker is wearing or which mental state he is in.
But the cops decided to take the US approach of shoot first ask questions later.
Guess we should task you with the investigation, since you appear to know a lot more than the rest of us.
You did see in the article where it says the guy was shot from behind right? Cuz it kind of kills all your little scenarios you’re coming up with here.
I am not sure how pepper spray is supposed to stop someone from wildly slashing around.
Blinding someone takes out a lot of their capabilities. It’s hard to hit a target you can’t see. And the vast majority of people with pepper spray in their eyes are going to grab at their eyes first from the pain/discomfort. I’m surprised I have to point this out.
Been many times proven to be unreliable: Highly depends on what the attacker is wearing or which mental state he is in.
The vast majority of people tend to tense up when tazed. Some people handle it better than others, but most people are getting stopped by a tazer. And again, pepper spray is another option if the tazer failed. The gun should have only been a last resort if no other options worked and the suspect was still trying to stab someone.
Guess we should task you with the investigation, since you appear to know a lot more than the rest of us.
They literally shot the man in the back three times, but K.
Incorrect, according to German legislation, weapons may be used to protect life and prevent harm. Courts have recurrently ruled that an attacker with a knife approaching the police or innocent bystanders are considered beyond stoppable if they are in immediate reach of a potential victim (which has been said to be in a range of 6 meters and below).
What needs to be established now is whether the cop used unnecessary lethal force, since the guy has been hit 4 times (3 direct hits, once grazed), and at least one shot was from behind.
Quick beat up some more Palestine protestors
I suppose the inquiry will simply be about whether the dead guy was black or not.
Talk about cultural appropriation, that’s America’s heritage!!!
Germany looking at America and thinking “that is a great role model”.
