We already have alternative, it’s called thunderbolt port.
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Why not use the already open displayPort and make it better.
Imagine putting out a new high bandwidth cable standard in 2025 based on copper.
The sooner display and networking move to SFP, the better.
Today I learned DidplayPort 2.1 can carry 240W.
That’s a lot of power! Are there even any devices that use this?
They fixed it.
Is it an open standard?
Most important question
Running that much power next to a data line sounds like a terrible idea for signal integrity, especially if something shorts to said data lines. It just sounds sketchy or filled with so many asterisks that it’s functional impossible to reach their claimed throughput.
It’s likely dc current which without the alternating magnetic fields will not degrade the signal as bad. But I whole heartedly agree with you on power delivery. What could possibly need/use that much power‽
The option to run one cable to the monitor, or reversely charge your laptop with one docking cable.
Maybe you could use this to daisy chain monitors and power them all.
The option to run one cable to the monitor, or reversely charge your laptop with one docking cable.
USB-C docks can already do this. Obviously with less power and it’s not perfect by any means, but we don’t need another technology for this. And sure, it’s two cables, one from wall outlet to integrated dock/monitor and usb-c from dock to laptop, but no matter the technology you still need something to plug in to wall outlet.
Displayport and hdmi are either twisted pair or coaxial I think. Low frequency RF from 50hz AC shouldn’t interfere with them, but high frequency changes in current on a power wire will.
Bigass showroom screens I suppose? Maybe large sound systems?
USB standard is up to what, 40Gbps and 240W? That’s pushing the envelope already. We’ll see if this new standard can prove itself, anyways.
USB4v2 can do 80Gbps and 240W.
It can also do 120Gbps/40Gbps asymmetric.
This must be for commercial displays where it is beneficial for installation to have power and data over a single cable.
I can’t think why I would want power delivery to my PC monitor over the display cable. It would just put extra thermal load on the GPU.
It would just put extra thermal load on the GPU.
Passing power through doesn’t have to put noticeable load on the GPU. The main problem I see there is getting even more power to the GPU - Nvidia’s top cards are already at the melting point for their power connector.
Passing power through doesn’t have to put noticeable load on the GPU.
I specifically said thermal load. Power delivery always causes heat dissipation due to I2R losses.
That’s what I meant. Compared to the power the GPU is actually using, transmission losses for a pass-through should be negligible. If you have a good way to get it to the card in the first place.
~~Why is that better than usb-c? ~~
Wait… Power the other way. Whoops, I get it.
I think it’s aimed at TVs in general, not computer monitors. Many people mount their TVs to the wall, and having a single cable to run hidden in the wall would be awesome.
I wonder what the use case is for 480W though. Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W. If you’re going bigger than that, I would think the mounting/installation would require enough hardware and labor that running out a normal outlet/receptacle would be trivial.
Gigantic 80" screens generally draw something like 120W
In HDR mode they can draw a lot more than that for short peaks
Headroom and safety factor. Current screens may draw 120w, but future screens may draw more, and it is much better to be drawing well under the max rated power.
In wall power cables need to be rated for it to prevent fire risks. This will need to have thick insulation or be made of a fire resistant material.
Even in that scenario it will complicate the setup. Now your Roku will also have to power your TV? No, any sane setup will have a separate power cable for the TV.
I don’t think you’d ever have a peripheral power the tv. The use case I’m envisioning is power and data going to the panel via this single connector from a base box that handles AC conversion, as well as input (from Roku etc) and output (to soundbar etc.). Basically standardizing what some displays are already doing with proprietary connectors.
The popular use for power delivery through a display cable is charging a laptop from your monitor; it’s already very common with Thunderbolt or USB-4 monitors. But 480W seems a bit overkill for that.
Nah, it’s for powering the 1000w RTX 6090.
That already kinda allow this and the actual load is pretty small
Even a big 30 in display is maybe 20 watts
Well, power delivery goes several times that. Laptops are another very useful case for it. It’s nice to be able to just have a single display port and power connector
You can do this to an extent, today
Won’t this heat up like a mother fucker
It depends on the voltage used. If they run 48V which seems to be supported by USB-C EPR. Then the cable has to do the same 5A it’s capable of doing today. Then the heat is the same.
When it comes to their own new connector/cable they can use even higher voltage or more/thicker conductors for power.
Even an 80” tv only uses around 150W, if my research is correct. Surely this must be thinking about massive displays.
Your research would be incorrect
Yeah it was a quick google search. Do you have better numbers available?
Most manufacturers only list average power draw, but in HDR mode you can get much higher peak power useage.
This website also lists peak power draw for many TVs, in this example the Bravia 9 85 inch has a peak of 380W
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model-power-consumption/fca71198
Ah perfect, that makes a lot more sense to me
If you’re gonna release a new standard, may as well have the headroom for future growth so it’s not outdated too soon in the future.
Now you can use one cable for two 80".
If it’s physically more stable and reliable than HDMI, then count me in
